↪god must be atheist
This is a shift that logic and reason can't bridge.
— god must be atheist
In that case, maybe logic and reason is sometimes looked too highly upon. — Etzsche
"1. Is revenge a hopeless path to follow, and if so, 2. what will become of someone who is unable to carry out the act?" — Etzsche
Is it psychologically possible for someone like the wanderer in the story to exist in real life? — TheHedoMinimalist
Yes I believe it is possible. But I can't help but think that the wanderer gains a sense of self respect from his life of compassion. — Etzsche
I would like to entertain you with a story. — TheHedoMinimalist
Does this mean that it’s sometimes possible to maintain your dignity while refusing to take revenge? — TheHedoMinimalist
So I suppose one must decide whether to respect their intelligence and decision making, or respect their human emotions. — Etzsche
Fair enough, which do you respect more? — TheHedoMinimalist
If he had not been executed as an act of revenge, then very possibly he would have returned again to plot against King Edward. His murder, as opposed to imprisonment, made this impossible. — Brett
So perhaps you don't like flattery? You don't like to hear good things about yourself, said by others? — god must be atheist
So putting this into simpler terms, you say that, for example, a thief who has stolen in the past, will steal again if not punished for his actions? — Etzsche
If you or someone you care about has been wronged, an emotional person would want to retaliate, but laws and restrictions prevent this from being a logical decision. — Etzsche
Building off of this, what will become of a person who soaks in this resentment every day for a long span of time? Without any form of catharsis, will the subject be able to make it out alright?
It shouldn't be right for this person to be locked in this cage, or down in a hole. — Etzsche
Instead of getting revenge on someone myself, the other option would be to go to the police. But the problem is, there's no proof or evidence that the act ever happened. — Etzsche
revenge.
Building off of this, what will become of a person who soaks in this resentment every day for a long span of time? Without any form of catharsis, will the subject be able to make it out alright? — Coben
What do you mean? — Etzsche
↪fdrake You don't think it's possible that thoughts of revenge could be human nature inviting you to un-civilize yourself? Instead of re-civilizing? — Etzsche
What do you mean? — Etzsche
I don't want to put words in your mouth. You said you distrust logic, because it flatters you; so you distrust things that make you feel good? Or is it only logic, the one thing of many that makes you feel good, that you distrust? for instance, you trust your chocolate cheese cake, you trust your lover, you trust your children, they all make you feel good, (I'm assuming that... substitute anything else that makes you feel good) but some, including logic, you are distrustful of.We’re impressed by the logic and convinced how right we are by our mastery of logic. — Brett
I wish I could say I respect the emotions. I really really wish I could say that. But my logical side is making it really difficult to. I believe I am a more emotional person in general, but consequences can't be ignored. I have to be smart about my decisions, especially in such a pivotal point in my life. — Etzsche
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