If he did, nobody wouldn't have to have any faith as the issue simply wouldn't be about faith and religion anymore.
And anyway, what the hell would he say to us? — ssu
PoeticUniverse — PoeticUniverse
Do what you can to make it sooner as they are still hurting many. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You love their genocidal son murdering god and how Christianity is homophobic and misogynous and do a lot of harm. OK. I get it you immoral piece of human garbage.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Best to ask a modern Gnostic Christians what his beliefs are because Gnostic Christianity is a perpetual seeking religion that has evolved along with man's moral thinking. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Before anyone can make these claims, they must prove the existence of these gods. — Sir2u
After god created us he fled in horror like Victor Frankenstein — Evil
I can imagine interpreting some of the commandments that way. But I see nothing there that demonstrates that God is hiding, even if it were the only possible interpretation that the commandments show insecurity. It seems to me you are making an assumption. Let's say you are correct: the ten commandments show that God has insecurity, you are still making an assumption that God is not showing himself to us becuase of that. Like if you had a fear of flying it means that you are not married because you are afraid of women. And that's accepting that the 10 commandments show and insecure God...there's still a leap.Fear is a component or analogous to insecurity. Have you read the Ten Commandments.
Did you note the insecurity/fear? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Well, you've added a lot of interpretations to various parts of the phenomenon in question. It all seems very speculative to me. But I believe you when you say that you 'cannot see him' doing it differently. That this is your take on what must be the case. I don't think it's a grounded take, however.If god could reproduce true or some other way, I cannot see him, as a member of one species, using bestiality to reproduce. Especially given that the last time the sons of god used the earth as a brothel, god got quite upset and used genocide against his own grandchildren. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
OK, you just shifted topic. I was referring to you saying they offered nothing to confirm that reality. I mentioned practices as a way people can confirm, potentially, that reality. IOW people follow the practices and decide that it has been confirmed. Here you are talking about your dislike of Yahweh, which is another subject. I don't disagree with you on that one, but it's a different issue.They offer a set of practices, ones that often lead to experiences that practitioners consider to be of God.
— Coben
Sure. Such are common, but what they are finding is not a genocidal and infanticidal god. No one in their right mind would seek such a prick of a god.
I think I just said something about Christians and Muslims here. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You tried Christian practices and experienced elevation to divine status?Yes, and was rewarded with my apotheosis. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I don't think 'that's what preachers begin with'. For example many begin with the divinity of Jesus. Further every preacher or Christian I have ever encountered believes that certain things about God are knowable and this is a working assumption in the Scriptures which purport to give information about that God. That God goes beyond that knowledge, that humans cannot know God completely, that God cannot be fully grasped, sure, that idea generally comes up or is implicit. But the OT begins by giving us information about God's actions and even his own reaction to what he created. It is clear that some things can be known about God in the Chrisitan belief system. You mentioned the 10 commandments, this is one amongst hundreds of chunks of information give about God.If so, how is the supernatural realm accessed?
You might have forgotten that The Abrahamic god has historically been said from the start to be unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways.
That is what preachers begin with, then tell us all the know of the unknowable and fathom of the unfathomable. What could their words be but lies? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
It seems like people find use in their experiences and appreciate them.
— Coben
Indeed. as shown with inquisitions and jihads. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
This is what I was responding to. You used the word 'us'. This means the God there in the Bible, that idea of God, is of no use to anyone. Here in context us talking about what people can or cannot confirm for themselves via practices and what experiences these might lead to.Cowardly, silent absentee gods are not worthy gods. They are useless to us. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
The younger generation seems more amenable to change. — PoeticUniverse
Dang...I thought the entire gnostic religion was playing off sarcasm... — ZhouBoTong
gnostic is atheist, — ZhouBoTong
The original gnostics had like a good and bad god (I think demiurge was the bad one?) or something right? — ZhouBoTong
So what do you actually believe - in the very basic sense - god or no? - if yes, what powers does your god have? Are there more than 1 gods? — ZhouBoTong
Unfortunately, the 'Bishop', who admits elsewhere to being a 'business dropout' — fresco
Gnosis, Gnostic, root word for agnostic.
Need I say more? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
But I see nothing there that demonstrates that God is hiding, — Coben
making an assumption. — Coben
And that's accepting that the 10 commandments show and insecure God...there's still a leap. — Coben
Well, you've added a lot of interpretations — Coben
You tried Christian practices and experienced elevation to divine status? — Coben
I don't think 'that's what preachers begin with'. — Coben
I think it would show an incredibly poor read of other people to think all preachers are lying or even most. — Coben
Gnostic is to agnostic as theism is to atheism. :brow: — S
Too illiterate for me to bother responding to. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That is not what I do you lying piece of human garbage.
For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
I do as much as I can against the evil mainstream religions on that front and only bring Gnostic Christianity in on occasion — Gnostic Christian Bishop
is hardly going to make for fruitful conversation — khaled
Show us one of these fruitful conversations that you or someone else started that paid off and cause a theist to agree against his original belief. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
He hasn't only trolled that site. I googled his last topic: "Do logic and reason say that God is our servant?" (verbatim search). I found like twenty websites with the very same topic.aving trolled this forum and getting the inevitable heckling, the 'Bishop' is now trolling Able2Know as the pompous 'Greatest I Am', preaching exactly the same parasitic drivel. — fresco
I am always happy to learn. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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