If Danish media came out and framed the argument before it was even made, and based on this, Trump publicly called the idea absurd, I would understand why the Danish PM would want to refrain from visiting. — NOS4A2
It was a response to media reports, not to Trump. No discussion occurred, so it’s absurd to say it is “an absurd discussion”. No conversation occurred, so it’s absurd to say “that’s where the conversation ends”, before it even began. Utterly ridiculous and absurd. — NOS4A2
You seem pretty fixated on the media. Is any of this about Trump or do you just have a passionate hatred for sensational reporting?
Yes, I think the political division is a media-induced hysteria, mostly for reasons of profit, and Trump is the scapegoat for what they’ve caused. I have a dislike of yellow journalism, mainly.
I don't think Trump is as bad as they claim he is. — NOS4A2
So if Denmark proposed buying Florida and demanded that that be discussed in the next meeting with the President, the appropriate response of the US would be what? "Sure, let's chat about it and see what happens"? Or if Trump had tweeted "That's absurd", you'd be criticising him? — Baden
I hear a lot of Trump supporters praising Trump for "firing back" with insults and degrading statements, while complaining only about the low behavior when it's directed at Trump. Here's how you avoid being hypocritical: call out inappropriate behavior regardless of who's engaging in it.Trump has been ridiculed since the beginning, caricatured in popular culture, burned in effigy, murdered in music videos and photo shoots; his looks, his body, his voice, his hair, his hands, his mannerisms have all been mocked and ridiculed incessantly; his family, his career, his legacy, put to the violent grindstone of popular opinion.
But he is still there firing back. — NOS4A2
Yes, that makes sense. There certainly is a kind of hysteria around every new Trump outrage. One that Trump, or more likely people in his circle, are able to exploit well.
It's important, though, not to fall for a genetic fallacy here. If Hitler says the sky is blue, it doesn't turn red. Just because the media is milking Trump for all he is worth doesn't mean things aren't bad.
The most dangerous thing Trump is doing is eroding the traditions and unwritten rules of his office. Democracy relies on these traditions. It's what keeps the naked power play at bay.
I hear a lot of Trump supporters praising Trump for "firing back" with insults and degrading statements, while complaining only about the low behavior when it's directed at Trump. Here's how you avoid being hypocritical: call out inappropriate behavior regardless of who's engaging in it.
I think it’s refreshing to know what the most powerful person in the world is thinking, even If I don’t agree with it, as opposed to the public/private views and public relations style politics of before. I think that kind of transparency is important for democracy. — NOS4A2
I hear a lot of Trump supporters praising Trump for "firing back" with insults and degrading statements, while complaining only about the low behavior when it's directed at Trump. Here's how you avoid being hypocritical: call out inappropriate behavior regardless of who's engaging in it.
I think firing back is completely appropriate, and wholly deserved. — NOS4A2
Regardless of asymmetric NATO power relations, the point stands, I think. I imagine there are some (albeit a minority of) Americans for whom an example of the tables being reversed could be helpful in illustrating how their attitudes are perceived abroad. Trump is one of them. — Baden
You’re right about the genetic fallacy, though I can’t find what is bad. Beyond the words, I have trouble finding one injustice. — NOS4A2
I think it’s for the better, frankly. He’s ridding the office of the political correctness and political niceties that we’ve come too accustomed to, in my opinion. I think it’s refreshing to know what the most powerful person in the world is thinking, even If I don’t agree with it, as opposed to the public/private views and public relations style politics of before. I think that kind of transparency is important for democracy. — NOS4A2
I don’t get why people try hold Trump to the same standard of the press. One is a politician, the other is meant to inform the public. — NOS4A2
One is a for-profit media organization, the other is the President of the United States.
Are you really trying to say that Trump should be held to a lower standard than, say, CNN?
Isn't the president tasked - not just ethically - to represent the nation?
Besides, it pales in comparison to the scope and reach of the entire 4th estate. — NOS4A2
Yes, and he certainly does represent the nation, whether they like it or not. — NOS4A2
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