I dont agree that religious ideas are special, a bad idea is a bad idea even its something cherished by the person. — DingoJones
You think anti-theists should just shut up, which is fine, but you seem to be wanting it to pit tules in place to MAKE them shut up. — DingoJones
would you say the same thing about 13 out of 18 anti-nazi threads? Anti racist threads? — DingoJones
No, no, no. You're doing it all wrong. You need to be more vocal and nasty. What you should have said was, "Shut up and go away. You sound like a bloody idiot, so doubly go away". — S
The US, in particular, was founded by people escaping from religious oppression. For that reason, protection of religion is built into the foundation and superstructure of our institutional protections, in particular our Constitution. I'm not saying we're the only ones that feel that way. And I'm not saying that religion shouldn't be criticized. — T Clark
It's hard to take your argument seriously when you completely misstate what I wrote. — T Clark
There were none of those in the period I surveyed. Do you think that means everyone supports the Nazis and racists? Silly argument. — T Clark
Freedom of religion, not protection of religion. — DingoJones
Ya I spelled some words wrong too. Ill just have to find a way to live with myself.
Well I wasn't quoting you, that was the gist of what you said. You are acting as though thats not what you were saying but its in print. Someone bolded a quote from you where you said exactly that, so speaking of dishonesty and hypocrisy... — DingoJones
Regardless of what your intent was and whether or not you dislike anti-theism/religious sentiment, you should have gone about this a different way. The valid criticism many of the posters have given - and harsher criticism which hasn't been given yet wouldn't be valid if you had focused on the undue hostility and prejudiced behaviour of the posters rather than focusing on the anti-religious content of their posts. — Judaka
I haven't yet seen any criticism of my posts that I consider valid. Most of the people who have responded have mischaracterized what I wrote. Maybe that means I wasn't clear enough, but I don't think that's it. I think they're responding to what a typical anti-atheist might write and not what I wrote myself. — T Clark
So Ill do you the courtesy of reading any response you care to give as the last word but I think we are done here. — DingoJones
It is a thread to discuss the disruptive and disrespectful behavior of atheists and anti-religious posters on this thread. — T Clark
The first forum I signed up to was the Dawkins forum. That was an absolutely seething hotbed of 'fear of religion'. — Wayfarer
My feeling is, many people believe the whole 'religion' thing has been settled, 'science has shown that God is dead', and they really don't want to re-open the whole can of worms. Either that, or they're just not interested in spiritual and/or religious ideas. But since then, I have gotten over the need to persuade people of my views. I put the arguments, but past a certain point I desist.It's like the little old lady who rings the television station to complain about a risque television show - the advice is 'just don't watch it'. ;-) — Wayfarer
Not just one or two, but one after another after another. It wears me down and I think it damages the forum. — T Clark
I used to post on DharmaWheel forum and part of their ToS was 'no proselytizing'. I think that could be profitably added to this forum. — Wayfarer
Proselytizing is a difficult thing to determine. — Artemis
I think you're the one who mischaracterised what you wrote, you should have decided to go after unnecessary and unhealthy persistent aggression towards a group. You introduced a number of topics without intending to and you're arguing with people as if you didn't bring them up but you did. The very title would have set many people against you from the start - you led them to expect that you're going to be complaining about anti-religious posters rather than 1) this segregation idea or 2) the way in which some anti-religious posters are going about expressing their anti-religious ideas. — Judaka
I am generally more to the 'spiritual-idealist' end of the ledger, but at the same time, I don't think a philosophy forum is the place to wield Biblical verses as an argument. One may from time to time refer to them as illustrative of a moral maxim and the like, but I would draw the line at Christian apologists posting them as part of an argument. — Wayfarer
So, how to address this admittedly relatively minor problem? — T Clark
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