Chimpanzees also favour fair (50:50 split) offers in Ultimatum Game experiments to unfair ones (80:20 split), even when the unfair split is in favour of the proposer. — Isaac
What would you even be talking about when you say things like this given that you don't think the world has any properties? Are you just talking about things your own mind creates? — Terrapin Station
This seems to be all in the interpretation: alternatively, it could be down to a feeling of envy or a preference for grape over cucumber. — Janus
The neuroscience is beyond my comprehension. — creativesoul
I've been waiting for them(the experts, specialists, and groupies in/of the field) to admit that there is no one to one mapping between brain activity and particular thought. Many different thoughts correspond virtually the exact same brain state. Thought and belief(thinking about stuff) involve firing neurons, and different physiological biological structures and systems, but they most certainly do not consist entirely thereof. — creativesoul
I'd like to see the abstract and/or the synopsis along with some video footage of the behaviour under consideration. That would be very interesting. — creativesoul
I've been waiting for them(the experts, specialists, and groupies in/of the field) to admit that there is no one to one mapping between brain activity and particular thought. Many different thoughts correspond virtually the exact same brain state. Thought and belief(thinking about stuff) involve firing neurons, and different physiological biological structures and systems, but they most certainly do not consist entirely thereof.
— creativesoul
...sure, you know, I don't think they've thought of that, perhaps you better pop up to the neurosciences lab at Sussex and give them a few pointers, sounds like they need a bit of help. — Isaac
Everything is phenomenon — I like sushi
Is the sense of fairness uniquely human? Human reactions to reward division are often studied by means of the ultimatum game, in which both partners need to agree on a distribution for both to receive rewards. Humans typically offer generous portions of the reward to their partner, a tendency our close primate relatives have thus far failed to show in experiments.
As recent work has shown, nonhuman primates, particularly chimpanzees and capuchin monkeys (Cebus ssp.), resemble humans in their decisions about cooperation (12–15) and their aversion to inequitable reward divisions (16–18). However, it is unclear how these same nonhuman primates respond to situations in which a peer can influence the outcome of a task, such as in the UG. In contrast to the human tendency to split rewards roughly equally (at least in most cultures), two previous studies found apes to be entirely self-interested: Proposers offered the smallest possible amount and respondents accepted virtually all offers...
you know, I don't think they've thought of that, perhaps you better pop up to the neurosciences lab at Sussex and give them a few pointers, sounds like they need a bit of help. — Isaac
What counts as non linguistic thought and belief? — creativesoul
You're invoking them as a means to support that the chimps in question work from some model of fairness/justice is just plain not supported by what you've offered as support. — creativesoul
I'll attent to it more. — creativesoul
We can then start to ask questions about items of experience. What ‘aspects’ or ‘parts’ of a box can be said to be the ‘essence’ of boxes? How many sides does a box need? Do we have to necessarily observe every side or edge of a box to appreciate it as a box (can we observe a box from every angle - the eidetic givenness of a box regardless of our limited perspective). — I like sushi
What ‘aspects’ or ‘parts’ of a box can be said to be the ‘essence’ of boxes? How many sides does a box need? Do we have to necessarily observe every side or edge of a box to appreciate it as a box — I like sushi
What are you talking about? — I like sushi
.... obvious way — I like sushi
I don’t need to point out... — I like sushi
... pretending... — I like sushi
... doesn’t occupy subjective consciousness. — I like sushi
Can you imagine a box with no sides? As in create an image in your head of a physical box. — I like sushi
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