No, again, the whole point is that the concept of a "system" is the most generic and fundamental. Properties are features and functions of systems.....It's a new vocabulary.
Emergence is only one proposed solution to the hard problem. — Pfhorrest
No. My thesis takes a stand, and like math, reasons answers from axioms. The Multiverse theory is likewise a non-answer, but it allows physicists to continue thinking in materialistic terms. Which led them to the Big Bang conundrum in the first place.Your thesis explains nothing, it postulates another question as an answer. And questions are not answers, you know? — Zelebg
Namely that the universe started out unconscious, and then, as a result of non-conscious stuff doing things, consciousness arises. — bert1
You might believe that you have evidence that you are conscious, but I have absolutely none. — A Seagull
And that subjective reality is precisely what can never be made an object - at least, not without completely changing the perspective from which it is being examined. — Wayfarer
Unfortunately, some people interpret Emergence Theory as a technical-sounding term for Magic. But it's not a perceptual gap, obscured by smoke & mirrors & black capes. Instead, Emergence is simply a conceptual phenomenon.I think it springs from naturally emergentist assumptions. Namely that the universe started out unconscious, and then, as a result of non-conscious stuff doing things, consciousness arises. — bert1
The purported 'hard problem' is dissolved - as is many other so-called 'problems' - when we quit using utterly inadequate frameworks to talk about stuff.
The problem with this notion of rigid designation is that 'Bruce Wayne' can be a name for more than one individual, and only one of those individuals is also Batman; so it is not necessarily or "analytically" true that Bruce Wayne is Batman. — Janus
The problem is based upon a gross misunderstanding(misconception) of human thought and belief as a result of being based upon the objective/subjective dichotomy. As is qualia...
On a panpsychist account the specific kind of internal perspective that humans have "emerges" along with our evolving functionality just like the "external perspective" of our behavior does [ ... ] but the mere having of an "internal perspective" at all is something that was always there at the fundamental level, and didn't suddenly pop into existence when things with no "internal perspective" were combined just right. — Pfhorrest
if that is the person being referred to by both the names "Bruce Wayne" and "Batman", then it is necessarily true that Bruce Wayne (the "Bruce Wayne" we're referring to) is Batman (the "Batman" we're referring to) — Pfhorrest
This just says that if two names refer to one person then inasmuch as they do refer to that one person, they do so necessarily. — Janus
The irony of one who charges another with exactly what they are guilty of doing. I'm not interested in continually explaining with someone who doesn't even accept and/or understand when an adequate explanation has been given. I'll add this and see how it goes...
If consciousness is not adequately accounted for in terms of "objective" and "subjective", then any and all notions of human thought and belief based upon that dichotomy cannot take consciousness into proper account. Consciousness consists - in very large part - of human thought and belief.
Not quite. The necessity isn't about what the names refer to. The necessity is the identity of "two" individuals, who are actually one individual under two different names. — Pfhorrest
This just says that if two names refer to one person then inasmuch as they do refer to that one person, they do so necessarily. — Janus
A subject's phenomenal experience of an object is the same event as that object's behavior upon the subject
if what two different names refer to is the same individual, then they necessarily have the same reference. — Janus
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