So do humans deserve to be happy even though it is happiness that causes divides in people? — Anthony Kennedy
No, I don’t think people are necessarily deserving of happiness, but everyone deserves the right to pursue happiness. — NOS4A2
Does that include those whose happiness is born of other peoples suffering or impeding their pursuit of happiness with consequencial unjustified murder of their lives, livelihoods and status?
Or what about those whose greatest joy is in hoarding happiness away only for themselves on the backs of stronger individuals than they whom they allow to live in severe hardship? — Mark Dennis
Well then you have competing pursuits of happiness, and unless you want to embrace conflict then some kind of agreement between the people involved will have to be made. Not that you asked me but I had an answer ;) — DingoJones
We also have the ability to create and potential to improve upon Consequence free environments through video games and simulations so its not like after a certain level of advancement people wont be able to get their freaky kicks without hurting anyone anyway in a way where they honestly couldn't tell you if its an AI or not but not discounting player vs player simulations. — Mark Dennis
The problem with this situation, though, is that the value structures of this consequence-free environment are not as ‘isolated’ from the value structures we use in other environments as we’d like to think. The very relativity of value suggests that there is a structure that determines the circumstances under which we would apply our different value structures, enabling us to interact with everyone and everything else regardless of the value structures they might apply in the situation. We need to be conscious and critical of how we determine this overall structure - as a more ‘objective’ reality - to avoid prediction error (ie. suffering) in how we interact with others. — Possibility
An excellent point to raise! Maybe I should review how I am using consequence free here; Real consequence free. That isnt the same as completely consequence free. For example we can introduce fixed consequences in video games; for example we if a player deviates from a certain area, they automatically are transported back there and are denied the forbidden area.
You can design a super cop in a simulation of reality with the ability to mete out justice through either punitive of reformative justice without fail.
Or you can design realistic consequences and just have someone repeat scenarios until they figure out which consequences aren't bad for them or others. — Mark Dennis
So do humans deserve to be happy even though it is happiness that causes divides in people? — Anthony Kennedy
Causality can't be denied so easily and so it appears that humans do deserve and not deserve according to their actions — TheMadFool
Rather I think the question postulates that there is some special consequence "happiness" to which people may have an inherent "right" of expectation. — Pantagruel
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