I think belief in God comes from being aware of the despair we have in our life without God. Only God can cure us from that despair. — Wittgenstein
That's not what I asked though. I don't think it is obvious that the vast bulk would say that this distinction is necessary to make. — khaled
Care to elaborate? I think: "I am eating right now" is an example of a proposition that is true at the moment but could very well be false. — khaled
In a cosmological context, this would be an example of 'why':
1.Every contingent fact has an explanation.
2.There is a contingent fact that includes all other contingent facts.
3.Therefore, there is an explanation of this fact.
4.This explanation must involve a necessary being.
5.This necessary being is God. — 3017amen
don't think you've got anything to teach me. If you could show me how, by denying the reality of necessity and contingency, I am bound to find myself affirming contradictions, — Bartricks
Saying that a proposition is necessarily true is really no different to writing the word 'true' in capital letters. — Bartricks
"True" is what we call sentence tokens that bear repeating on their own terms, which is to say, without contextualising in the manner of "... is untrue because..." or "... would be the case if not for..." etc.
Such contexts are potential predators, and must be fought off and dominated. — bongo fury
Truth is not the name for some practice of ours - our practice of calling some sentences 'true', for clearly we could have that practice and some of the sentences we call true could be false. — Bartricks
Not without contradicting other sentences we call true. — bongo fury
Truth is, as I have argued, the assertive activity of Reason: a proposition is true when Reason asserts it. — Bartricks
I hate to call you out on this minor detail but you just contradicted yourself by asking for help when apparently your suggesting that you don't need it. — 3017amen
At any rate, I have demonstrated by that simple syllogism (including of course my other responses) where contingent/necessity is appropriate in (cosmological/metaphysical) discourse, without going into any extraneous explanation that could confuse you. — 3017amen
But to answer your concern, you denying those so-called logical tools of discourse would not present any contradictions. However, with all due respect, by denying them you would also be denying yourself of a higher level of understanding. At the risk of redundancy, theoretical physics uses those tools to help advance various theories about same. — 3017amen
I agree, but I wouldn't stop there. I would say, saying that a proposition is true (or TRUE) is really no different to expressing (asserting) the sentence. — bongo fury
I don't expect you will approve of any of these steps. — bongo fury
In what fantasy world did you push me into a corner? — Bartricks
So, he did not say that he pushed me into a corner, and I did not say that he did either. All is well. — Bartricks
That is, I do not understand metaphysical possibility. — Bartricks
I don't either. I don't know what that is supposed to mean. Care to elaborate? — khaled
Aw, shucks. I was again foiled by your superior argumenting skills. (S.) — god must be atheist
yet at the same time be able to imagine that it equals 58 — Bartricks
I don't think anyone can imagine it being 58. We can believe it is 58 momentarily but that doesn't make it true. Once someone has discovered it is 54 he can't imagine a situation in which it is 58. A contingent truth means that even when you are convinced it is true right now you can imagine a situation where it isn't — khaled
A contingent truth means that even when you are convinced it is true right now you can imagine a situation where it isn't — khaled
We can easily imagine sums equalling numbers distinct from those they actually equal — Bartricks
Take your own existence. Can you imagine not existing? No. — Bartricks
The very existence of this debate shows that metaphysical possibility is not considered to be one and the same as conceivability. — Bartricks
By contrast a necessary truth is a proposition that is true and is incapable of being anything but true — Bartricks
True by definitional fiat. — creativesoul
we find ourselves claiming that falsehoods are necessary truths. — creativesoul
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