They are doing their job, because the majority of the Senate are Republicans.The Senate majority are not doing their job. — creativesoul
It's about the polarization of Americans to two camps who cannot get along. — ssu
And it's not going away.The two camps inhabit two distinct simulacra (a la Baudrillard) buttressed by Facebook fact- and alt-fact-bubble algorithms. — ZzzoneiroCosm
The Senate majority are not doing their job.
— creativesoul
They are doing their job, because the majority of the Senate are Republicans. — ssu
Nowhere does it say...that the jurors must be impartial... — Relativist
Well, Clinton was impeached on 11 grounds, including perjury, obstruction of justice, witness-tampering, and abuse of power. With the obstruction of justice the Senate was split 50-50, but nowhere near the 2/3 majority. And btw, no Democrats senators did vote for convicting Clinton, although 5 democratic House members were in favor of impeaching Clinton.Disgraceful. That is itself grounds for impeachment. — creativesoul
In short, the Constitution is flawed: — Relativist
They didn't do anything unconstitutional; that was the point I made earlier. They violated the oath they took, but the oath isn't enforceable. Senators have carte blanche to judge guilt and to judge whether or not the crime is a "high crime or misdemeanor", and this implies there is always sufficient wiggle room to acquit. They will nearly universally use this wiggle room to acquit when it's a President of their own party. Unless the opposition party has close to a 2/3 majority (which is hard to forsee ever happening), there will not be a removal.Rather, it can't deal with a President and Senate majority that, to all intents and purposes, ignores the Constitution and flouts the law, which is what has happened. Impeachment is eminently possible, if the political will and commitment to principle existed. — Wayfarer
Well, Clinton was impeached on 11 grounds, including perjury, obstruction of justice, witness-tampering, and abuse of power. With the obstruction of justice the Senate was split 50-50, but nowhere near the 2/3 majority. And btw, no Democrats senators did vote for convicting Clinton, although 5 democratic House members were in favor of impeaching Clinton. — ssu
They violated the oath they took, but the oath isn't enforceable — Relativist
They didn't do anything unconstitutional; that was the point I made earlier. They violated the oath they took, but the oath isn't enforceable. Senators have carte blanche to judge guilt and to judge whether or not the crime is a "high crime or misdemeanor", and this implies there is always sufficient wiggle room to acquit. They will nearly universally use this wiggle room to acquit when it's a President of their own party. Unless the opposition party has close to a 2/3 majority (which is hard to forsee ever happening), there will not be a removal — Relativist
Soros’ propaganda isn’t so much a matter of principle as it is the typical anti-Trump politics. — NOS4A2
So...you envision the House impeaching approximately 50 Senators, and then each of these would be tried in the Senate...and these Senators would then vote to remove themselves.Impeachment is the tool of enforcement. — creativesoul
If one's principles are contrary to Trump's behaviour and policies then being principled and being anti-Trump aren't mutually exclusive.
I'd like to think that if Facebook were promoting Nazi or Ku Klux Klan nonsense then my objection would be principled and not just a political disagreement.
Edit: Although it's not simply about being opposed to Trump but being opposed to Facebook allowing "deliberately misleading or false statements by candidates for public office and others, and tak[ing] no responsibility for them." Given Trump's constant attacks on "fake news" and threatening/punishing news organizations, I would have thought he'd agree with Soros on this one.
The company posts few if anything. Yet it cannot control shrewd manipulation. Many times it likely doesn't know what is written in other languages that English.But despite Soros’ claim, it isn’t Facebook posting misinformation and other claptrap. — NOS4A2
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