You are either lazy like Satan, or lying to us about your beliefs. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I'm praying for your soul, you are condemned to hell brother! Is that what you want to hear?
Hahaha — 3017amen
Satan is going to get you, watch out!!!!!!! — 3017amen
You're too easy. — frank
Did sin enter the world through Adam, Satan or Yahweh?
Most, as well as scriptures, say that it was through Adam, even though Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh’s plan.
Given the necessity, Adam, from that, may not be the culpable one and his punishment would be unjust.
Satan had already sinned in heaven before being cast into Eden.
It can be truthfully said that she was the first sinner on earth if we ignore Yahweh.
Further, would you say that Eve sinned, given that Satan or the talking serpent deceived her?
That deception would take lies, and that is a sin, and that sin also preceded Adam’s sin.
Many do not see what the serpent says as a lie, which complicates things.
Was the initial sin, regardless of who did it, a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan like Christians sing in their Exultet hymn?
Did Yahweh lie when he told Adam that he would die if he educated himself with the knowledge in the Tree of Knowledge?
Why and how does knowledge kill us?
If it does, should we keep our children as blind to it as Adam and Eve initially were?
The Eden myth can get quite complicated, especially when Christians call it a fall, then say it was necessary so as not to derail Yahweh’s plan.
This last being what the Jews wrote into their myth and which they say is not the Original Sin of the Christian interpretation, but more like the Original virtue that the Jews call it.
The opposite of what Christianity says, if you ignore their happy fault view.
In terms of first sin, I see Yahweh, since sin was necessary to him as the first sinner, followed by Satan, Yahweh’s loyal opposition and teacher of humankind, and then Adam.
Why Eve at the end of Genesis 3 has to then be second class to Adam, --- he shall rule over you, --- would seem like Yahweh punishing the wrong party.
Thoughts?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Fundamentalist Christians think it's more likely that we know what the writings from thousands of years ago really meant in those days, than that our scientific testing on rocks is accurate. That is an interesting debate — Gregory
You should not take advantage of a guy with no memory for faces and names. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
maybe mercy is questionable — Gregory
Sin was born with the egg. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Jesus Christ is extremely smart and can predict everything. — christian2017
A part of you dies. — Leviosa
Christianity is misogynous and homophobic. How should you resolve that problem? — 3017amen
Good! But are you now suggesting one should throw the baby out with the bathwater ? — 3017amen
Is a genocidal son murdering baby worth saving? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Not sure I'm following that one. Are you suggesting there is no forgiveness in life? — 3017amen
Think about that for a minute. It's not obviously moral — Gregory
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