A person conditioned to swimming with Orcas may have less stress in that situation, but that isn’t because the situation was different, but because the body is. — NOS4A2
Point is that the conditioning is in part responsible for the level of stress. Conditioning can be external to the effected brain, can it not?
You are simply underrating the true advances in human society just to make a point how things still suck. — ssu
Point is that the conditioning is in part responsible for the level of stress. Conditioning can be external to the effected brain, can it not?
—praxis
If you mean that one can train his brain by exposing himself to stressful environments, and that these environments are external, then yes. — NOS4A2
So back when we had real authoritarian regimes or feudalism, that wasn't stressful? — ssu
GCB nothing to disagree with there. And to answer you rhetorical question, of course they should. — bert1
I’m pretty sure the body causes stress, not governments. — NOS4A2
Stress itself begins and ends in biology. — NOS4A2
Being in a bad lot is not stressful. — god must be atheist
I think this issue has more to do with people adopting government's/nation's ideas of success, than governments trying to make their citizens miserable. — Tzeentch
Umm... you think those are caused by our rulers or governments? — ssu
So the outside cause is not a part of what has the body create stress.
Watch that link again. is all I can say. If you cannot believe a genius on this issue ------ not to mention logic and reason then -------
Regards
DL
(Not to say these folks wouldn't change if we all did - the times are harsh - the Gov ain't heartless) — xyzmix
For instance, two people can be in the same environment, with one perceiving a threat while the other doesn’t. Only one will experience the stress. If they are both in the same environment and in the presence of the same environmental forces, why don’t they both experience stress? Because one perceived and interpreted a threat and one didn’t—because stress begins in the brain. — NOS4A2
You have to show this until I believe it. Usual guides talk about a 20%-25% of meat and fish.Have you noted, for instance the government food guide in the U.S. shows a really poor diet which is meat heavy and vegetable poor. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
My point is that stress is self-generated, that it begins in the brain. — NOS4A2
I can’t make any sense of your question. — NOS4A2
I don't think there's a sinister ploy here. — ssu
Can you come up with a real world scenario because your two people are obviously not anywhere near the same. If one reacts to a threat, one is normal. You posit someone not reacting to a threat, or not recognizing it, and that indicates that one is a lot smarter than the other.
Apples and oranges to me.
Regards
DL
If self generated and harmful to us, why would a brain or mind subject itself to what is not good for it?
You seem to be aware of a cause from outside, yet maintain your self-generated view.
The brain does indeed produce the stress, but not without an ouside issue to pull the trigger of the brains self-creating stress.
A cat might create t's own stress, but to ignore that there was a G D dog after it is quite foolish.
People can stress by thought alone, even while in the least stressful of environments. So “outside triggers” aren’t necessarily a given. — NOS4A2
That we eat more and exercise less isn't a government program. That Coca-cola or the tobacco industry try fighting regulations with their own "facts" is very much an American thing, but you have to still make the separation between corporations and the public sector. Where you can make the difference is for example in the meals given in schools. Even if I was a child back then, when I came to the US to the 2nd Grade, I could notice that the food was rubbish compared to what it was like in my home country. The amount of sugar was surprising even to a kid. Yet I wouldn't go so far to call it an intentional policy to get people fat.I am not a conspiracy nut but some facts cannot be ignored. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Well, I would say that societal changes that happen when people get more prosperous and eat more meat than before isn't only because of the US. But Americans do have this urge to think they are causing everything bad in the World. It isn't so. You aren't SO important.I am not a conspiracy nut but some facts cannot be ignored. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You aren't SO important. — ssu
but you have to still make the separation between corporations and the public sector. — ssu
You do know you are an American. Would North American be better?I am a Canadian. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Ownership and having influence over decisions are two different things. Just as there is a difference between Canada and the US compared to Saudi-Arabia or North Korea.Why, when the corporate heads own your government and writes it's legislation for it? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You do know you are an American. Would North American be better? — ssu
The rich control the governments — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Governments impose poverty and it’s stresses with their regressive and immoral tax control policies. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Stress reduces our life expectancy and causes misery and hardship for the vast majority of us. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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