A fascist religion would not have it any other way. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
To live infinitely, would be the most boring existence, I think, and would leave us all wishing we could die. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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I totally agree with you, but I think we are engaging Christians and I want to stress science has done more for us than religion in terms a religious person might grasp. — Athena
Our failure to be aware of what Christians have done to our democracy and what they are trying to do, is perhaps the worst reality the world has ever faced. Germany was a very small country with very limited resources compared to the US that has adopted the German model of bureaucracy and German model of education for technology for military and industrial purposes. Does that answer the question in the title of this thread? — Athena
For Hegel, the State is the highest embodiment of the Divine Idea on earth and the chief means used by the Absolute in manifesting itself as it unfolds towards its perfect fulfillment. Hegel argued that the State is the highest form of social existence and the end product of the development of mankind, from family to civil society to lower forms of political groupings.
The State is a superorganic whole made up of individuals grouped into local communities, voluntary associations, etc. These parts have no meaning except in relation to the State, which is an end in itself. The State can demand that its parts be sacrificed to its interests. Each man is subordinate to the ethical whole – if the State claims one's life then the individual must surrender it. Because everything is ultimately one, the collective has primacy over the individual. Hegel's State has no room for the idea of individual rights or a liberal theory of the State; instead it provides an ethical underpinning for totalitarianism. The State is an independent, self-sustaining, superorganism made up of men and having a purpose and will of its own.
The demand to have only one story wiped out the other ones as part of enabling the growth of power in a secular world. — Valentinus
It is urgent that we understand why Christians have again formed into a life-threatening fascist state. — Athena
I will be hugely disappointed if people in a philosophy forum do not respond. — Athena
I don't even understand how Adam's act of eating from the tree of good and evil was evil if he didn't know what evil even was until he ate the apple. — Hanover
For verily I say unto you: for Adam, to fully understand sinfulness, he had to have a sense of what's evil and what's not, so he had to eat the apple in order to appreciate that eating the apple was a sin. — god must be atheist
Had he never ated the apple — god must be atheist
There were a number of testimonies that got labelled as "Gnostic" by the "Church Fathers."
The orthodoxy that shut out all but one view was not concerned by the differences it dispensed with.
That suggests the matter of forming the authorized view was only concerned with putting down anything that differed from it in any way.
That explanation does not require pitting one narrative against another. The demand to have only one story wiped out the other ones as part of enabling the growth of power in a secular world. — Valentinus
You do know that secular law would say that Adam did not pass the mens rea test and was not guilty of anything because he had no evil intent or evil mind.
Every court on earth would say that Yahweh did a poor judgement and Adam was innocent.
Add in that you sing that Adam's sim was a happy fault and necessary to god's paln and your view falls apart.
If you were Adam, would you further Yahweh's plan and sin, or would you derail Yahweh's great plan and not sin?
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DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Perhaps this could be brought back on topic? What would be the characteristics of an ideal ideology?
My own Gnostic Christianity, of course. Kidding, somewhat.
A few thoughts.
It would offer the electorate, be it political or religious, the maximum amount of freedom of speech and actions that can be gained in a controlled system where the larger laws or sins are governed by law.
Those would be murder, theft, etc.
One feature it would have would be a socio economic demographic pyramid that is intentionally controlled by statistics so that there is no official poverty. You might recognize that poverty in rich nations like what we have today is imposed via the tax systems and IMO that is immoral. Gandhi thought the same if I may name drop.
I would also have mine set up by guild so as to change the focus of each of us just applying greed to our worth, to that of concentrating more on moving up honestly within our guilds for the glory alone, even as the cash would come automatically.
My best ideology would have a leader who was tyrannical when it came to administrating law, but super flexible and curious to see if he or his his people could come up with better laws to follow.
That seeking for better law idea is not only in my Gnostic Christianity but it was also a trait of Egypt, which was one of the best well run societies of the old world in terms of freedom and equality for all.
It would also be run more by experts and crown corporations than elected people who get there by name recognition like what happens today when people elect T V stars that are basically ill suited or incompetent in leading.
It would also reward whistle blowers handsomely, instead of trying to quiet them or jail them the way most governments do today, while telling us that more should whistle blow. Hypocrites those.
I am sure I have left many issues unanswered but did not want to write a wall of text. I live by the old 6 inch rule. Ask away on any issue of particular interest to you.
Regards
DL — Athena
And oh do these people love to point their fingers at others and say how bad they are. — Athena
Women should rule the world and not men. It would make future negotiations for the huge problems coming our world way a lot easier to find solutions to. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If you know of the first few popes, you will know how decadent and immoral those popes were.
They make Rasputin look like a saint. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Seriously? The same women continuously vote the parties who advocate globalism and unlimited third world mass immigration because it feels so good? By and large, the female vote has been a disaster. — Nobeernolife
Inform us, Excellency, as to why these men were so decadent and immoral they make Rasputin look like a saint. — Frank Apisa
What? Christianity is 5000 years old? In what universe?As compared to our last 5,000 years of disastrous male driven war history. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Can you give us an overview over this 20,000 years of history that you claim to know so well, as well as these goddesses?You might wonder, after clearing the garbage, why the 20,000 years prior to our disgusting history, we had peace under the goddesses. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
t the female vote is majority anti-Trump and pro globalist, — Nobeernolife
What? Christianity is 5000 years old? In what universe? — Nobeernolife
Can you give us an overview over this 20,000 years of history — Nobeernolife
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What a dummy you are. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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