You made an assertion...I've asked you to back it up...and you have declined. — Frank Apisa
Gnostic Christian Bishop
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You made an assertion...I've asked you to back it up...and you have declined.
— Frank Apisa
I did not decline and gave you 2 link. If a 1,000 years of Dark Ages is not enough for you, bite me.
Fetch boy fetch yourself, and provide the histories of the popes you named. Dummy.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You are the guy who made the assertion about the first few popes.
I furnished you the names of the first 12 popes.
Now you are asking me to do the job of meeting YOUR burden of proof?
You are new to this, aren't you? — Frank Apisa
I wish I could remember the exact page in my very old logic book from a different time when we people were not so sure of themselves so I could quote it. It stresses we should never be too sure ourselves because our knowledge is very limited — Athena
We have specialized and narrowed our thinking far too much to have good judgment and we don't listen to our elders who know better. — Athena
Education for democracy has promoted fast thinking and discouraged slow thinking. — Athena
we have a moral problem — Athena
All religions are built on past religions and calling one set of concepts "myths" and another "religion" creates a delusion that we need to destroy — Athena
You wrote: "If you know of the first few popes, you will know how decadent and immoral those popes were. They make Rasputin look like a saint."
So I gave you a list of the FIRST 12 POPES (more than just the first few)...and asked you what made them decadent and immoral.
Now you are accusing them of atrocities that occurred CENTURIES AFTER THEY WERE DEAD.
Not a single person on that list (the first 12 popes) had ANYTHING to do with witch burning or inquisitions.
Man up!
Simply acknowledge that you were talking out of your ass when you made that accusation.
Or...continue the bullshit.
It's kinda cute. — Frank Apisa
You might want to read the book "Jesus Wars" by Philip Jenkins. The history of Christianity is full of conflicts and power plays, not so different from Republican presidents wiping out all the achievements of Democrat presidents one pope would wipe out the work of the previous pope. What happened was not at all better than the witch hunts and the witch hunts are the direct result of ignorance and that ignorance was the result of destroying the pagan temples that were places of learning and transmitting the knowledge that gave us modernity when it was rediscovered during the renascence.
It amazes me that Christians appear to know nothing of religious history but have a complete fantasy of their religion. — Athena
How do you and Watts unpack this sort of talk?I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Thanks for showing us why women should rule.
They like to gather consensus while that seems to offend you.
Women unite, men divide.
Sure, men have ruined many to make them like you, but most are too intelligent.. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
No need, but I can link you to the appropriate scholars if you want to take better than on hour educating yourself. Warning, it is a boring process. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
What counts as "knowledge of good and evil"? How does it make humans "like gods"?
How do you interpret the imperative to not eat the fruit? — Cabbage Farmer
Inquisitions and Jihads dominated the past — Gnostic Christian Bishop
How do you interpret the figure of Christ in the myth? As a unique historical person, or as a Christ-nature in all human beings analogous or identical to Buddha-nature and Atman, or what? — Cabbage Farmer
Oh boy, talk about having things backward. I agree with you that women as a group have different characteristics (as is shown by research, cf. Jonathan Haidt, but their exaggerated empathy and lack of protective instinct for the tribe makes them extremely dangerous as political leaders. Especially in combination with the astonishing lack of political knowledge shown by research (by the Guardian, nontheless of women, and that across all age, education and ethnic groups).
Fundamentally, suffrage for women was a big mistake by Western societies. — Nobeernolife
Not much of an answer to where your prattling abot 20,000 years of peaceful goddesses comes from. I am not holding my breath for an reference of substance. — Nobeernolife
couple of hundred people, — Nobeernolife
More lies. Just the Cathar inquisition murdered more than what you put. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I was referring to Haidt`s research, not teachings. I suppose you are blissfully unaware of it and unwilling to check it.That is not Haidt's teachings and you are too bigoted for me to bother with a guy who would make all women second class citizens. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
What does Cleopatra have to do with anything? And no, I do not hate women, I just state that as a group (not every single one of course) have a terrible level of knowledge and terrible voting record. It is quite understandable from an evolutionary biology point of view, but I dont assume you are willing to look into that.You stupidly forget Cleopatra. Your mother must have been a real bitch for you to hate women so much and think they do not protect their offspring's. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
So what is the death toll for the "Cathar inquisition"? And is it ongoing today, like the Jihad? — Nobeernolife
Estimates of the number killed by the Spanish Inquisition, which Sixtus IV authorised in a papal bull in 1478, have ranged from 30,000 to 300,000. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Athena
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↪Frank Apisa Well, thank you for setting things straight. I am not that interested in the popes, so I will bow out. But when it comes to being our own god, I don't think that is what a person wants. That is a lot of responsibility and I think we avoid responsibility when we can. :lol: — Athena
OK, I take your word for it.
However, as I said, this was a limited period in history, and it is finished.
But the figures pale in comparison to the Jihad, and the Jihad continues today.
So again, where do you get off comparing the two? — Nobeernolife
About comparing the God of Abraham religions- they all share the same God — Athena
Nobeernolife
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About comparing the God of Abraham religions- they all share the same God
— Athena
No, they do not. The description of God figure is completely different, and if you think of islam as a sort of Arab Christianity all you do is demonstrate that you have not researched the issue at all. Zip, zilch, nada. — Nobeernolife
What Athena said is absolutely correct. The "Allah" of Islam...IS the god of Abraham. — Frank Apisa
I've heard that some scholars interpret the knowledge in the story to mean "knowledge of everything". How is knowledge of everything "subject" to the distinction between good and evil, on your account? This sounds interesting.It was not a fruit so stop trying to downgrade the command to a mere fruit when it is the knowledge of everything as everything is subject to the adjective of good and evil. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Do claim to know the intention of Yahweh in the myth? Isn't it possible that he set it up as a sort of trial or obstacle -- somewhat as philosophers have sought to resolve the "problem of evil" by explaining the existence of moral wrongdoing as a consequence of free will?To your first. In the myth, Yahweh ties knowing the knowledge of good and evil to our developing a moral sense and the command tried to prevent that. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Is there only one Christian ideology, on your account?Strange that when the Christian ideology says that we should let god do tour thinking for us. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I don't suppose you believe this is the only inconsistency in the stack of texts collected in the Bible?A great way to make people stupid and unable to think for themselves, even as scriptures tell us to judge all things. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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