but what would you call the excess of patience? — Lecimetiere
The deliberate element was what threw me off as how can one do something deliberate if they are not given a second choice? That is, having patience isn't something you can practice because nature forces you to wait, you have no other options. However, it is the reaction and the emotions you feel in moments where great patience is asked of you. — Lecimetiere
So, now I am stuck wondering about where patience fits in the mean doctrine. Obviously, patience is the mean, and impatience is the deficiency, but what would you call the excess of patience? Is it lazy or forgetfulness, no that doesn't seem to correlate correctly. Since I cannot have a discussion with my professors or peers, I am here seeking a consensus on "what is the excess of patience?"xx — Lecimetiere
Since I cannot have a discussion with my professors or peers, I am here seeking a consensus on "what is the excess of patience?" — Lecimetiere
But you can also be patient, practice patience - as opposed to losing your cool and acting rashly out of frustration and anxiety. Or lashing out at those who "try your patience. — SophistiCat
But "overpatient" would probably not be interpreted as a pejorative, like "impatient" could be. Just comments — jgill
I don't think you are apprehending the mean doctrine quite right here — Metaphysician Undercover
One way to describe an "excess of patience" is Apathy. Impatience is high motivation, low control. Patience is moderation of (control over) passion, as in Stoicism. It derives from Latin "Patiens" (suffering), as in the "passion of Christ". So, an excess of willingness-to suffer might be Apathetic (absence of passion). If you are clinically depressed, you may patiently endure your suffering to an excessive degree. Even the Buddha-like Stoics would consider psychological depression as going too far with suppressed emotions. :fear: :groan: :cool:I am here seeking a consensus on "what is the excess of patience?" — Lecimetiere
The opposite of cowardly would be courage, and courage is the action of doing something that others fear. — Lecimetiere
So, now I am stuck wondering about where patience fits in the mean doctrine. Obviously, patience is the mean, and impatience is the deficiency, but what would you call the excess of patience? Is it lazy or forgetfulness, no that doesn't seem to correlate correctly. Since I cannot have a discussion with my professors or peers, I am here seeking a consensus on "what is the excess of patience?" — Lecimetiere
In terms of the mean doctrine, I would say that the two vices in opposition are:
- ‘impatience’: one interacts only with the imagined reality; and
- ‘apathy’: one interacts only with the actual, observed reality. — Possibility
Apathy is a lack of interest, whereas being overly patient demonstrates a lack or suspension of judgement regarding an anticipated action or outcome. How long should a teacher wait for a student to answer a question? — jgill
The deliberate element was what threw me off as how can one do something deliberate if they are not given a second choice? — Lecimetiere
Obviously, patience is the mean, and impatience is the deficiency, but what would you call the excess of patience? Is it lazy or forgetfulness, no that doesn't seem to correlate correctly. — Lecimetiere
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