In the UK the left dominate areas of government employment , for instance teaching. I read once that teachers used to be the biggest single group within labour party membership. People on the left (like most teachers) have no issue with people like me (in the private sector) paying large amounts of tax to ensure that they (teachers) have a much better pension plan than I could ever afford. — Chester
Not in the slightest - perhaps the central tenant of anarchist politics is mutual aid and communal organization, and perhaps the central cry of all leftist politics is: 'organize!' — StreetlightX
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↪fdrake I think talking to leftists is a complete waste of time...they invariably learn nothing from history. The old leftist ideas died for a reason...people didn't like the results, the ideas didn't die because normal people were brain washed by the right...a favourite leftist fantasy. — Chester
I'm just pointing out that socialists , for all their demands for fairness in society ,have no problem sponging off of those who earn less than them . — Chester
Teaching is basically a closed shop unionised protection racket...teachers are virtually unsackable, that's why there are so many shit ones. — Chester
I am hoping they China lead the world to understand that an amalgam between the benefits capitalism has to offer and the benefits socialism has to offer...is the best way to go. — Frank Apisa
I would rather live in Finland, Sweden or Norway than China as well. I think it is hard to characterize governments with one or two word labels. I visited the philosophy of politics sites and there are so many different labels for socialism and liberalism that I prefer to talk about specific problems and specific solutions.Northern Europe presents a much better balance. — Marchesk
The problem here is what to do with the people who don't agree. — Marchesk
It was the unions who gave us the 5 hour work week — StreetlightX
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↪fdrake Socialism is the concept that the workers own the economy. It's a bullshit idea that never works. Also when people point to China they conveniently forget that China has prospered by
stealing Western ideas whilst sub-contracting for it. China itself is not a place for building and developing new ideas because the state can just take them from the individuals who build them at any time...that's why socialist states end up falling behind Western states.
Socialism kills individual endeavour. — Chester
As an example a friend of mine had to do a business degree to progress where he worked...he was taught a load of leftist bullshit that he'd already discounted with his own work experience... — Chester
Socialism kills individual endeavour. — Chester
So like... you see a supermarket like the Co-op or that company Mondragon and immediately put it in the same box as Stalin?
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