The peaceful protest that has everyone's backing has made no progress in 50 years. That is a fact. — unenlightened
Those things are not justifiable . Most black people in America get on with their lives with no more problems than white people. It may be the case that black people are more likely to engage in illegal activity and that is why the police have more "run-ins" with them. I also notice, from the UK, that many US cops are black... — Chester
↪unenlightened If I disagree with you do I have a right to come around your house and smash the fuck out of it? — Chester
We are not talking about disagreement, we are talking about extra-judicial killing and widespread oppression of a community. — unenlightened
The peaceful protest that has everyone's backing has made no progress in 50 years. That is a fact.
— unenlightened
When has there been such a thing on this scale since the 60s? — Marchesk
In style more than in substance. Street would make a better Leninist, I think. Hang the bloodsucking kulaks, that kind of thing. — jamalrob
I wrote the example of the violent riots, looting and then revolution against the British, seemed to be enough. — boethius
Indeed, most political changes against a government no longer viewed as legitimate are violent. I owe the freedoms I enjoy right now to lot's and lot's of violence in the past.
The point of democracy is to avoid the need of such violence. My point here is that this is what's under consideration; you can argue the state is legitimate, democratic processes are working as intended, any grievances should be pursued primarily through existing state processes. However, if you concede the point that the state no longer functions correctly, then the idea that "regardless of the issue, property riots and looting must be condemned" is no longer based on anything. — boethius
Agents of the state and their real masters loot the treasury, people on the street loot Nike and Starbucks; there's no longer democracy, only who's side are you on will determine "who is in the wrong". — boethius
Yes, yes, just like how the majority of the media is 'just commenting' on all the awful 'violence' of these very unaesthetic black people being inappropriately angry just because a cop killed one of them in public again. Uncouth. — StreetlightX
What is it you're accusing me of, exactly? Being an agent of Bloomberg or Murdoch? — Echarmion
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