decolletage. Décolletage is a plunging neckline on a woman's dress. Without decolletage, there would be no cleavage. This French word comes from a verb meaning “expose the neck,” and that's exactly what décolletage does: it's a low neckline on a woman's dress or shirt. — Urban Dictionary
A miniskirt (sometimes hyphenated as mini-skirt, separated as mini skirt, or sometimes shortened to simply mini) is a skirt with its hemline well above the knees, generally at mid-thigh level, normally no longer than 10 cm (4 in) below the buttocks;[1] and a dresswith such a hemline is called a minidress or a miniskirt dress. A micro-miniskirt or microskirt is a miniskirt with its hemline at the upper thigh, at or just below crotch or underwear level. — Wikipedia
In social philosophy, objectification is the act of treating a person, or sometimes an animal, as an object or a thing. It is part of dehumanization, the act of disavowing the humanity of others. — Wikipedia
Gratuitous. If you're a man, then you do not understand women at all, and neither does any other man. What might be interesting are theories as to how or why they're incomprehensible - to the end of actually understanding them! (Laughing out loud.)I don't understand women all that well. — TheMadFool
I don't understand women all that well. I see women railing against their objectification by men and yet the choices they make in their clothing suggests they wish to be treated as such. — TheMadFool
But perhaps a more serious question would be if women see their own choice of clothing as objectifying them. — tim wood
Wanting to look good is not the same as wanting to be treated as an object. — Michael
Indeed, but the heart of the issue is women want to look good in a way that hints of a probably subconscious desire to become objects of mens' desire. — TheMadFool
You're equivocating. Wanting to be an "object of desire" in this sense is wanting to be desirable. That's not the same as wanting to be treating as an object. — Michael
Wanting to be an "object of desire" is tantamount to wanting to be "treated as an object." — TheMadFool
Not all women are the same — creativesoul
No it isn't. When I dress to look good I don't want to be treated as a disposable dildo. I certainly want to attract women but to think that that amounts to the desire to be objectified is patently false. — Michael
What exactly do you mean by "I dress to look good? — TheMadFool
Indeed, but the heart of the issue is women want to look good in a way that hints of a probably subconscious desire to become objects of mens' desire. — TheMadFool
A woman can walk around naked and not want to be treated as just a sex object, partner, or what have you.
You are not realizing that someone can want to look appealing and want to be viewed as that AND so much more. — creativesoul
Not a good start.
A woman can walk around naked and not want to be treated as just a sex object, partner, or what have you.
You are not realizing that someone can want to look appealing and want to be viewed as that AND so much more. — creativesoul
Wanting to be an "object of desire" is tantamount to wanting to be "treated as an object." — TheMadFool
I'm in no way claiming "they had it coming" but I'm bothered by how women dress in ways that seem to attract all the wrong kind of attention to themselves and then seem offended by it. — TheMadFool
The problem is in treating or viewing someone only as an object, which is probably the sense in which "objectification" is used when described as a problem. One can dress with the knowledge that one will be objectified, but one ought to be able to expect to be treated as a person as well. — jamalrob
When women complain about sexual objectification, they usual mean all of the time, in every situation — Kenosha Kid
I see women railing against their objectification by men and yet the choices they make in their clothing suggests they wish to be treated as such. — TheMadFool
A man who appears vulnerable and is drunk out of his mind may be robbed and killed at a much greater chance. While I wouldn't say he had it coming to him, he did set the table, so to speak. The world we live in is not a masterpiece across every corner. Fortune favors the prepared. — Outlander
I'm in no way claiming "they had it coming" but I'm bothered by how women dress in ways that seem to attract all the wrong kind of attention to themselves and then seem offended by it. — TheMadFool
What's wrong with that? Just because you - many (most?) hetero-males - can't handle that, doesn't entail it's wrong or that a woman shouldn't have her dawgs & her dignity too. :smirk:Women want to have it both ways - make men desire them as objects (of sex) but not make men think of them as objects (of sex). — TheMadFool
"Deep mystery"? None whatsoever. The allure of the power (à la will to power) of allure - desire that desires to be desired! :yum: (A. Honneth?) And yeah, as every woman can attest: they are crazy. It's not either-or, Fool. Also: "Women are crazy because men are stupid" about women, Thus Spoke George Carlin!Either there's a very deep mystery here that begs thorough investigation or women are crazy.
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