Pfhorrest's diagram has philosophy at the centre, which is exactly wrong. — Banno
Philosophy is on the edges because higher learning, thought, and reasoning is produced by it . . . — Outlander
Philosophy done well guides and facilitates sciences, protects them from the interference of philosophy done poorly, and then gets out of the way to let the sciences take over from there. — Pfhorrest
That said, I think you are casting too big a net, calling anyone who contemplates anything a philosopher. At which point the label is meaningless. — jgill
The word "philosophy" derives from Greek words meaning "love of wisdom", in a sense of "love" that in Greek meant attracted to or drawn toward it. I take it then that characteristic activity of philosophy is the pursuit of wisdom, not the possession or exercise thereof. Wisdom, in turn, is not merely some set of correct opinions, but rather the ability to discern the true from the false, the good from the bad; or at least the more true from the less true, the better from the worse; the ability, in short, to discern superior answers from inferior answers to any given question. — Pfhorrest
Philosophy is about figuring out how to do sciences. It uses the tools of mathematics and the arts, logic and rhetoric, to do the job of creating the tools of the physical and ethical sciences — Pfhorrest
Banno, you’ll note that I already said above, the oldest version did start with logic at the center, of language, math, and philosophy, before expanding to feature logic and rhetoric as dual centers, and incorporate the arts opposite math. Philosophy was at the bottom of that chart. It was also at the bottom of another chart, with the sciences and trades, which I turned upside-down to glue to the top chart, making this one. That’s the only reason philosophy is at the center. — Pfhorrest
Another approach would be to pull philosophy out and put logic at the centre; the flower then has order, structure or pattern at the centre with philosophy, sense-making, as the perimeter. — Banno
It's all thoght and belief. — Banno
You oughta find a place for history, maybe could give the diagram an additional dimension. — Enrique
Philosophy is not a subject, but an activity. It consists in critique and analysis, in conversation, not systematisation. — Banno
Wisdom, in turn, is not merely some set of correct opinions, but rather the ability to discern the true from the false, the good from the bad... — Pfhorrest
It is not the building up of a body of knowledge - as you would do in your own work - but the tearing down of nonsense. — Banno
Where does wisdom fit into this picture? — ZzzoneiroCosm
the ability to discern the true from the false, the good from the bad; or at least the more true from the less true, the better from the worse; the ability, in short, to discern superior answers from inferior answers to any given question. — Pfhorrest
That's why I added a qualification to the word objection. — Banno
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