it is still the same that no wrong is done to the child prior to its existence. — TVCL
Indeed, we could conclude that genetic splicing is wrong because we can argue that once the child exists it would be better for them to have sight than to be blind. — TVCL
If malicious genetic splicing is carried out the wrong is not done until it is actualised in a being that exists. — TVCL
this is not the same as arguing that even if the child is to be born blind it is better that the child never had existed — TVCL
↪unenlightened May we have someday a book of your collected pithy apothegms? Think of the joy you could spread with them. — tim wood
The argument is it is better to avoid creating harm by not giving birth to anyone. Since birth results in unconsented harm. — khaled
However, again, a being that does not exist at all has no freedoms whatsoever. — TVCL
withholding birth seems to ensure the least amount of freedoms to the child. — TVCL
The giving of life is not - in total - simply an act of doing harm to those given life. — TVCL
The giving of life is not - in total - simply an act of doing harm to those given life. Instead, the giving of life is the giving of a state in which there is both the potential for the child to be harmed, but also the potential for the child to experience all of the things that might justify the experience of that harm to them including joy and meaning (this distinguished it from the splicing example which was solely to ensure more harm). — TVCL
the deprivation of harm would also be the deprivation of those things that might justify it. — TVCL
in which case there is the freedom to cancel life in the form of suicide. — TVCL
However, completely depriving the child of life does not allow for this option to exist at all — TVCL
made the suffering worthwhile. If those who give children life are responsible for inflicting the harm done to them, they must also be responsible for the things that justify that harm. — TVCL
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