being real - as in existing independently of X's mind — TheMadFool
Says who? Why should we start with the assumption that "reality" means anything that "exists" independently of our "minds"? — Xtrix
dreams must be real. — TheMadFool
...so you are not trying to perform some sort of Bayesian calculation?
Then what is it you think you are doing? — Banno
It's basic probability that I'm doing — TheMadFool
Says who? Why should we start with the assumption that "reality" means anything that "exists" independently of our "minds"?
— Xtrix
If that's false then dreams must be real. — TheMadFool
different than waking life, but certainly still there — Xtrix
No, it isn't.
I have a bag of marbles, two of which are real and one of which is not real...
What are the chances of my pulling out the unreal marble? — Banno
I think "real" is very close in definition to "most-common". — Bird-Up
Falling in a dream leaves no cuts and bruises. — TheMadFool
No, it isn't.
I have a bag of marbles, two of which are real and one of which is not real...
What are the chances of my pulling out the unreal marble?
— Banno
This is basic probability. Probability of pulling out the unreal marble = 1/3 — TheMadFool
You've never dreamed you had a fall, and in that dream found yourself to have cuts and bruises? — Banno
There's a difference between these two worlds. — TheMadFool
Either will be more productive than further torturing statistics. — Banno
I admit the human element seems to have failed us here.... (But) I don't think it's fair to condemn a whole program based on a single slip-up. — Buck Turgidson
This world is real, in contrast to dream worlds. — Banno
Indeed, there is. This world is real, in contrast to dream worlds. — Banno
What if I miscounted the number of unreal marbles in the bag? How can I know for sure how many unreal marbles are really in the bag? — Banno
‘It seems very pretty,’ she said when she had finished it, ‘but it’s rather hard to understand!’ (You see she didn’t like to confess, ever to herself, that she couldn’t make it out at all.) ‘Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas—only I don’t exactly know what they are! However, somebody killed something: that’s clear, at any rate—’
sometimes language appears to be making sense when it really isn't . Much of philosophy is built on this. Consider, again, Alice's response...
‘It seems very pretty,’ she said when she had finished it, ‘but it’s rather hard to understand!’ (You see she didn’t like to confess, ever to herself, that she couldn’t make it out at all.) ‘Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas—only I don’t exactly know what they are! However, somebody killed something: that’s clear, at any rate—’
...most of philosophy, summed up in a knutshell. — Banno
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