Quick and simple question: you do understand, yes?, that causation doesn't exist, but is rather a pretty good practical account - story - of how a lot of things seem to work. This reflected in how complicated a word "cause" is, and as well in the general abandonment by most of science, except as a useful fiction, of cause as a useful explanatory concept, replaced now for almost an hundred years and more by the concept of fields.But causation exists, — 3017amen
Quick and simple question: you do understand, yes?, that causation doesn't exist — tim wood
My stream of consciousness? And yours and everyone else's? That is a lot of different causations. Or perhaps you'd like to just see what they have in common? And that would be a abstraction.from your stream of consciousness. — 3017amen
My stream of consciousness? And yours and everyone else's? — tim wood
My point, and imo the salient point, is that cause-and-effect is an invention of reason - and a pretty good one - but that it's existence is as an idea. — tim wood
Cause-and-effect, then, used substantively as foundation for anything else, that else substantively no stronger than its foundation, has in terms of cause and effect no substantive strength at all.
17m — tim wood
Did anyone say that? As ideas, sure they exist. As more than ideas, then what are they? — tim wood
And any answer to that is going to be definitional and problematic because bespoke, and thus not one-size-fits-all. — tim wood
Can you say positively and concretely where and what the noumenon, -a, is/are? — tim wood
being prior to perception, remains inaccessible to perception. — tim wood
Now, on that way of thinking, that water is H₂O is an empirical discovery, and hence a posteriori. And yet necessarily true. — Banno
Sort of, maybe? Wasn't Kant recruited by both camps?Kant was a phenomenologist? — Gregory
Yes. It's been quoted by other philosophers that he was considered one of the first from his particular era... — 3017amen
Kantian noumenal objects are not real in an Aristotelian sense of being discrete. Noumenal objects are indeterminate sources of complex personal sense-perception possibly leading to logical judgment. — magritte
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