It would have been nice if Foucault had mentioned the author or authors he was targeting with his criticism. But it is somewhat rare for famous philosophers to critically mention contemporary authors. They probably expose themselves to the discovery that they have not been seriously read them. This is often the case.
If Foucault's criticism refers only to the contextuality of meaning, it seems to me that it is not very original. I suspect that there is something else. — David Mo
It was not just about the contextuality of meaning. — Number2018
There is no statement that does not presuppose others; there is no statement that is not surrounded by a field of coexistences, effects of series and succession, a
distribution of functions and roles. — Number2018
What seems to me a little limited in the analysis of Strawson, Searle, etc. [Wittgenstein, Austin], is that they are strategy analyses of a discourse that is made around a cup of tea, in an Oxford salon, which are interesting strategy games, but which seem to me to be profoundly limited. The problem would be if you can't study strategy in a more real context, within practices that are different from salon conversations. Personal translation from the Spanish edition.
There is no mention of Austin in The Archaeology of Knowledge. — David Mo
In "Archeology of knowledge," Foucault shows how his statements are related to speech-acts. — Number2018
the difference between his theory and that of "Anglo-Saxon philosophers" does not seem to be one of theoretical principles, but rather of the backgrounds to which they apply, — David Mo
a primordial generative function that does not depend on external factors. — Number2018
Domain of material objects possessing a certain number of observable physical properties, a domain of fictitious objects , a domain of spatial and geographical localizations, a domain of symbolic appartenances and secret kinships;e a domain of objects that exist at the same moment and on the same time-scale as the statement is formulated, a domain of objects that belongs to a quite different present -
that indicated and constituted by the statement itself, laws of possibility, rules of existence.
These are Foucault's exact expressions in The Archaeology of Knowledge which constitute the domain of the enunciative value. Do they not refer to the context of the enunciation? Space, time, location are not external factors? — David Mo
The concept of the generative function of language does not appear in The Archaeology of Knowledge,. Are you not applying alien concepts in your interpretation of Foucault? What do you mean with "generative function"? — David Mo
Generally speaking, one can say that a sentence or a
proposition - even when isolated, even divorced from the natural context
that could throw light on to its meaning, even freed or cut off from all the
elements to which, implicitly or not, it refers - always remains a sentence
or a proposition and can always be recognized as such .
On the other hand, the enunciative function - and this shows that it is
not simply a construction of previously existing elements - cannot
operate on a sentence or proposition in isolation. It is not enough to say a
sentence, it is not even enough to say it in a particular relation to a field of
objects or in a particular relation to a subject, for a statement to exist: it
must be related to a whole adjacent field . (AoK: 97)
See this:
Generally speaking, one can say that a sentence or a
proposition - even when isolated, even divorced from the natural context
that could throw light on to its meaning, even freed or cut off from all the
elements to which, implicitly or not, it refers - always remains a sentence
or a proposition and can always be recognized as such .
On the other hand, the enunciative function - and this shows that it is
not simply a construction of previously existing elements - cannot
operate on a sentence or proposition in isolation. It is not enough to say a
sentence, it is not even enough to say it in a particular relation to a field of
objects or in a particular relation to a subject, for a statement to exist: it
must be related to a whole adjacent field . (AoK: 97)
Warn this: even when isolated, even divorced from the natural context that could throw light on to its meaning (!)
Here there is an implicit recognition (?) that context (could?) change the meaning of a statement. How can it be said that a statement can be recognized without an external context? — David Mo
This seems to contradict this:This 'means’ that we should avoid doing this: for Foucault, there is no ‘natural context’ that could ‘throw light on to statement’s meaning.’ — Number2018
Lastly, what we have called 'discursive practice' can now be defined
more precisely. (...)it is a body of anonymous, historical rules, always determined
in the time and space that have defined a given period, and for a given
social, economic, geographical, or linguistic area, the conditions of
operation of the enunciative function. (AoK, III, 3: 117)
the statement is neither visible nor hidden. — Number2018
Another reason: the 'signifying' structure of language (Iangage) always
refers back to something else; objects are designated by it; meaning is in
tended by it; the subject is referred back to it by a number of signs even if
he is not himself present in them. Language always seems to be inhabited
by the other, the elsewhere, the distant; it is hollowed by absence. Is it not
the locus in which something other than itself appears, does not its own
existence seem to be dissipated in this function? But if one wishes to des
cribe the enunciative level, one must consider that existence itself;
question language, not in the direction to which it refers, but in the
dimension that gives it; ignore its power to designate, to name, to show, to
reveal, to be the place of meaning or truth, and, instead, turn one's
attention to the moment - which is at once solidified, caught up in the
play of the 'signifier' and the 'signified' - that determines its unique and
limited existence. In the examination of language, one must suspend, not
only the point of view of the 'signified' (we are used to this by now), but
also that of the 'signifier', and so reveal the fact that, here and there, in
relation to possible domains of objects and subjects, in relation to other
possible formulations and re-uses, there is language. (AoK:111)
A system must be understood as a set of relationships that are maintained and transformed independently of the things that link them together. It has been shown, for example, that Roman, Scandinavian and Celtic myths make very different gods and heroes appear, but that the organisation that links them, their hierarchies, their rivalries, their betrayals, their contracts, their adventures obeyed (in cultures that ignored each other) a single system. Recent discoveries in prehistoric times also show that a systematic organisation presides over the arrangement of the figures drawn on the walls of the caves. In biology, it is known that in the chromosomal material are encoded, as a coded message, all the genetic indications that will allow the development of the future being. Lacan's importance lies in the fact that he showed that it is the structures, the language system itself - and not the subject - that speak through the discourse of the patient and the symptoms of his neurosis. Before any human existence, before any human thought, there would already be a knowledge, a system that we rediscovered (Michel Foucault. Interview with Madeleine Chapsal : La Quinzaine littéraire, No. 5, 16 May 1966, pp. 14-15) Translation is mine.
I would like to comment on them if you find them interesting as well. — David Mo
The statement is not hidden (in Foucault's sense) if we do not need to look for a hidden meaning, to interpret it according to a founding transcendental principle. 'Not visible' meansThat it is "neither visible nor hidden" is a paradox that needs to be explained or it will remain confuse. In common language hidden and visible are an exclusive alternative. — David Mo
‘The statement is the same in itself,’ is the essence of Foucault’s archaeology. The primary criterion for the existence of ‘the statement in itself” is the manifestation of its repetition, or, more precisely, its inherent variation. The statement repeats itself due to its ’regularity,’ its enunciative function. Does Foucault succeed in avoiding a pure metaphysical founding of the statement existence? And how his method is different from an empirical contextual analysis?Foucault always starts with a limited corpus of linguistic datum. As his later works showed, the chosen datum is operated by and exposes the enunciative function inherent to a field of particular power relations. For example, in "The will to power," the discursive formation of various verbal performances of ''sexuality'' is not hidden nor visible. The statement reflects the intensification and the function of the power relations in our society. It is disclosed, and found out under the chosen phrases and prepositions, behind their ''natural'' meaning and logic. Therefore, the 'initial' meaning becomes transformed.according Foucault, because the statement is the same "in itself". In itself? What is the "itself" of a statement? — David Mo
What means the modality of existence of a statement which is independent of its different possible meanings? — David Mo
The statement is not hidden (in Foucault's sense) — Number2018
Indeed, Foucault gives a very particular meaning to "visible" and "hidden". I don't think your interpretation makes much sense. Rather, you have to read this:For example, in "The will to power," the discursive formation of various verbal performances of ''sexuality'' is not hidden nor visible. — Number2018
Although the statement cannot be hidden, it is not visible either; it is
not presented to the perception as the manifest bearer of its limits and
characteristics. It requires a certain change of viewpoint and attitude to be
recognized and examined in itself Perhaps it is like the over-familiar that
constantly eludes one; those familiar transparencies, which, although they
conceal nothing in their density, are nevertheless not entirely clear. The
enunciative level emerges in its very proximity. (AoK:110)
The primary criterion for the existence of ‘the statement in itself” is the manifestation of its repetition, or, more precisely, its inherent variation. — Number2018
Does Foucault succeed in avoiding a pure metaphysical founding of the statement existence? — Number2018
And how his method is different from an empirical contextual analysis? — Number2018
I am abolishing all interiority in that exterior that is so indifferent to my life, and so neutral, that it makes no distinction between my life and my death — Number2018
Are these quotes from Focuault or your interpretation?It is disclosed, and found out under the chosen phrases and prepositions, behind their ''natural'' meaning and logic. Therefore, the 'initial' meaning becomes transformed. — Number2018
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