Why America Must Lead AgainIt falls to the United States to lead the way. No other nation has that capacity. No other nation is built on that idea. We have to champion liberty and democracy, reclaim our credibility, and look with unrelenting optimism and determination toward our future. — Joseph Biden
I sure think it is. It is producing more interest in terrorism. It is scaring both China and Russia. If those countries intervened as much as the US does and did worldwide they would be painted as radically aggressive imperialist nations. Their domestic policies are horrendous, but the US is aggressive and passive aggressive (with bases close to borders, etc.) in ways that are destablizing and which would not be accepted if it was China and Russia.Is that even a bad thing? — jamalrob
we really see the US aggressively attempting to reassert its role as world policeman? — jamalrob
What will the Biden presidency of the United States mean for the world? — jamalrob
This, along with the generally more bellicose tone of the Democrats over the past few years, leads me to wonder if we might be going to see an interventionist foreign policy even more ambitious and more dangerous than Bush's or Obama's. — jamalrob
From my point of view, this seems like it will only strengthen Biden's liberal imperialist agenda. — jamalrob
The question is irrelevant because anyone elected via the banana-republic system in place in the US is unqualified to have access to that button. — Benkei
lineage of Democratic American presidents who had clear moral vision, and the balls to confront the gangsters. Some succeeded, some failed, all had the right idea. Best I can tell, Biden will be part of this tradition. — Hippyhead
You have to admit that some of the more recent attempts to show morally right balls ended up making things worse, as in Iraq? — frank
Because your elections are bought and paid --> everything that derives from it is circumspect. — Benkei
Oh, and add to that such beauties as the "unitary executive theory" and that it was Obama who started military actions in Libya and Syria without congressional approval. Clear moral vision my fucking ass. — Benkei
Was the neoconservative flavour of Biden's rhetoric just a reflection of his need to oppose everything Trump was seen to stand for, in this case realism and isolationism in international relations? Or will we really see the US aggressively attempting to reassert its role as world policeman? Is that even a bad thing? — jamalrob
Simple calculus is that Saddam killed less people during his entire reign — Benkei
But nuance and subtlety and actually thinking things through seem to be a problem — Benkei
See? You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, which is why I'm not taking you seriously. A million people were killed in the Iran/Iraq war alone. — Hippyhead
Also, you continually make the classic mistake of the typical Iraq war critic. You completely ignore what Saddam (and his sons) would have done given another 20 years in power. Whatever that death toll would have added up to, it's completely missing from all your calculations.
As you know, Iran is riding the edge of becoming a nuclear power. How do you think Saddam and his sons would have responded to that threat? There's an excellent chance that with Saddam's regime still in power we'd now be witnessing a nuclear arms race exploding across the Middle East. Instead, today's Iraqi government presents no threat to any of it's neighbors. — Hippyhead
Blah, blah, blah, thank you for the morally superior lecture. Try again when you get around to thinking things through. — Hippyhead
As for the neocons, they always wanted to wipe Iran off the face of the earth — StreetlightX
Truly doubtful. The US only allows Israel to have a nuclear arsenal.There's an excellent chance that with Saddam's regime still in power we'd now be witnessing a nuclear arms race exploding across the Middle East. — Hippyhead
See? You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, which is why I'm not taking you seriously. A million people were killed in the Iran/Iraq war alone. — Hippyhead
Though the invasion led to the creation of Isis and this was certainly a threat to the neighbors. Further this seems to come in some historical void. The US wanted Iraq to be a threat to its neighbors and encouraged it to fight Iran and gave it the means to do it better or worse really.Instead, today's Iraqi government presents no threat to any of it's neighbors. — Hippyhead
The US ought to fuck right off from anywhere possible — StreetlightX
As our reward we now get to enjoy some (certainly not all) snooty Europeans lecturing us about what baby killing war mongers we are pretty much any time we try to liberate from bondage any one else in the world. — Hippyhead
Paul Edwards makes the case for aggressive military action to overthrow despots.
In that thread I applaud the clarity of his moral vision, while debating some of his suggested tactics. Personally, that seems a constructive way to proceed on such topics. — Hippyhead
BUSH: Would you like to see Saddam back in power?
OBAMA: Would you like to see Al-Qaeda restored to it's former glory?
TRUMP: Bring back the Islamic State? — Hippyhead
They wish to wipe the Iranian REGIME off the face of the earth. So do most Iranians best I can tell. — Hippyhead
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