[They] want to say there can't be any vagueness...the ideal 'must' be found in reality. Meanwhile [they] do not as yet see how it occurs there, nor do [they] understand the nature of this 'must'. [They] think it must be in reality; for [they] think [they] already see it there. — Wittgenstein, PI #101 (my emphasis in bold)
...we [philosophers] do not find the whole business of seeing puzzling enough. — Wittgenstein, PI p. 212 (all emphasis added)
The forms of expression we use [are (see note)] designed for a God, who knows what we cannot know... we lack the effective power... — Wittgenstein, PI #426
In… actual use...we go by sideroads. We see the straight highway before us, but of course we cannot use it, because it is permanently closed. — Wittgenstein, PI #426
Are Witt’s ideas a special and unique enlightenment, to be pitted against the dark history of philosophy, which in its entirety represented nothing but ‘a desire to solve skepticism with knowledge’ motivated by the ‘fear of the human’? — Joshs
In Heidegger’s’What is a Thing’ he recognized that a never-ending rethinking of the nature of a thing has taken and continues to take place in philosophy and science. Isn’t the same true of the motivations for failing to embrace his outlook that Wittgenstein is assuming as somehow transcending cultural eras? — Joshs
You ask if 'there is no concession that philosophy being done better (or worse) falls on us being better?' Of course, it is debatable about what us being better means really, but I am inclined to think that the more we explore ideas helps us gain self-knowledge, even if we don't manage to gain absolute knowledge of the big questions, the self knowledge we gain can enable us to live in a more conscious and reflective manner than if we have not thought about the philosophy questions in the first place, and who knows, it can involve stumbling upon new ways of seeing. — Jack Cummins
You describe the life of potential virtue but it does not seem to me that this would necessarily result in enabling one to be a 'better philosopher'... surely, that requires analytical ability as well. — Jack Cummins
I am not sure that to be a philosopher, character is necessarily more important than intellect... — Jack Cummins
After many examples of what we imply when we say “seeing”, Witt is admonishing us not to take our first impression as correct; not to equate “seeing” with “understanding”, as if both always happen right away. — Antony Nickles
I had one tutor a long time ago who asked: Are you sure you are sharing his problem? Isn't your impatience to go beyond it a lack of interest — Valentinus
Concepts lead us to make investigations; are the expression of our interest, and direct our interest. — Wittgenstein, PI #570
#109. "It was not of any possible interest to us to find out empirically that..."
#126 Since everything lies open to view there is nothing to explain. For what is hidden, for example, is of no interest to us.
(The question whether the muscles of the larynx are innervated in connexion with internal speech, and similar things, may be of great interest, but not in our investigation.) p. 220
But our interest does not fall back upon these possible causes of the formation of concepts; we are not doing natural science; nor yet natural history. p. XII — Wittgenstein
Or maybe the hoped for connection [seeing or understanding] will not happen at all. — Valentinus
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