That racism is objectionable is not like that I prefer vanilla. My preference has no impact on how I think you might act - I will not insist on your eating only vanilla. Ethical judgements do carry over to others. In such things I am the arbiter; no other option is viable. — Banno
Ethical positions set out how we want things to be, and hence what we ought to do. — Banno
It's amazing to me that an invertebrate, related to clams, may have self-consciousness. — T Clark
Based on what though? How people want things to be includes racism, and all kinds of horrors, like eugenics. — Tom Storm
You decide what to do next. You can't make that decision for someone else. What makes your version of how you want things to be better than someone else's is that it is yours, and hence the one you will use to decide what to do next. — Banno
But it brings suffering to many people and that I see as wrong, even horrible and I will if I get the chance, do anything to stop it. — SmartIdiot
"Does Existence have any objective/universal meaning?" — SmartIdiot
"Nothing has any Value" includes, and thereby refutes, itself. Objectively speaking.First of all I think objectively speaking nothing has any Value ... — SmartIdiot
This conclusion does not follow from the self-refuting "nothing has any Value". You're just babbling inanities.... therefore racism cannot be bad or good (in a universal way).
Do you think you were socialised into thinking this is the right thing to do, or do you believe that the prevention of suffering forms the basis of a secular ethical system? — Tom Storm
It's remarkable how many otherwise self-critical folk fail to see this — Banno
"Nothing has any Value" includes, and thereby refutes, itself. Objectively speaking. — 180 Proof
Will you act so as to reduce racism? Do you agree that suffering is worth eradicating?
Your answer tells us about you. — Banno
But it brings suffering to many people and that I see as wrong, even horrible and I will if I get the chance, do anything to stop it.
— SmartIdiot
Do you think you were socialised into thinking this is the right thing to do, or do you believe that the prevention of suffering forms the basis of a secular ethical system? — Tom Storm
MY OCTOPUS TEACHER is a fine documentary on a particular octopus - on Netflix. — Bitter Crank
So what more is needed here? We agree that suffering is worth eradicating. What more do we need? Why ask "How do you get to the idea that suffering is worth eradicating?" when you already have the answer? — Banno
There is no mechanism to determine whose view should predominate in social policy. — Tom Storm
think I was largely socialised to believe that suffering is wrong — Tom Storm
Is that empathy a matter of socialization, or is the ability to understand other persons and groups from their own vantage and moral justifications more akin to the grasping g of a scientific paradigm? Or is the understanding of a scientific theory a matter of socialization? — Joshs
In science you change the theory to match what you see in the world. You are able to triangulate your beliefs with mine and with the world around us. — Banno
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