If the left desires equality of outcome and you're against it that means that you desire inequality of outcome.
— praxis
Equality of outcome is a lack of diversity. You can't have both equality and diversity. To achieve equality of outcomes, we'd all have to be genetically engineered and raised by the State. — Harry Hindu
Can you somehow support the claim that the left wants equality of outcome? — praxis
Can YOU somehow support the claim that the left wants equality of outcome? — praxis
This by definition is not an equality of outcome. It's material consumption based on individuated needs. — Maw
They are all fascists. — James Riley
that's where equality comes in because what's more fair than that? — synthesis
Perhaps more to the point, all wealth ownership past, present, or hypothetical Leftist distribution is socially engineered. There is no natural wealth distribution. — Maw
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs — synthesis
In reality both Marx and Engels eschewed the entire concept of equality as an abstract and idealistic bourgeois aspiration, focusing their analysis on more concrete issues such as the laws of motion of capitalism and exploitation based on economic and materialist logic. Marx renounced theorizing on moral concepts and refrained from advocating principles of justice. Marx's views on equality were informed by his analysis of the development of the productive forces in society. — Wiki
I've read a lot of Marx and his economic analysis was absolutely brilliant. The guy was a major genius. Beyond economics, though, he was a fool (you can't win them all).I guess Marx wasn’t woke. :sad: — praxis
I've read a lot of Marx and his economic analysis was absolutely brilliant. — synthesis
My conclusion after decades of thinking about this stuff is that our best hope is to set individuals free within a framework of limited government that protects person and property and allow community institutions to gather the resources necessary to help those in need. — synthesis
Honestly incredible, it takes an exceptionally unique individual to say that Marx's critique of Capitalism was spot on and yet we must do it anyway. — Maw
You can critique everything but that doesn't mean you are going to throw everything away. Capitalism is the only economic system there is. — synthesis
The Left is constantly pushing their "inclusion" meme which I take as meaning that each GROUP needs to be represented according to their percentage in the population. Merit is of secondary importance. — synthesis
Capitalism is the only economic system there is. — synthesis
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