In logic, any atheist who posits God does not exist has the precarious an untenable position of defending his proposition.
The most prudent thing an atheist could do is to say nothing. Otherwise, he has essentially endorsed another belief system. — 3017amen
That isn't always the case. Some atheists may start from a feeling of superiority or, as I said, from fear. Not all atheists are the same. — Apollodorus
The most prudent thing an atheist could do is to say nothing. Otherwise, he has essentially endorsed another belief system. — 3017amen
I'm not sure you're following this discussion.The most prudent thing an atheist could do is to say nothing. Otherwise, he has essentially endorsed another belief system. — 3017amen
Let's grant that an atheist says something. Let's grant that said atheist cannot defend it. What has that to do with whether this atheist is afraid of the thought of there being anything higher than himself? — InPitzotl
We understand that. But it isn't a reason to deny the theoretical possibility that in some cases at least atheism may be motivated by fear of something higher than oneself. — Apollodorus
any atheist who posits God does not exist has — 3017amen
So, you're saying you're a believer. Believer in what? — Apollodorus
I myself find all the meaning of "g/God" contained in the only place and way that it can exist, as an idea. But it is an idea that in this modern era gets over the wall and confuses people into thinking it's real. — tim wood
I myself find all the meaning of "g/God" contained in the only place and way that it can exist, as an idea. — tim wood
I think you're missing the objection. It is theoretically possible that some atheist somewhere is scared of a being higher than his/her self.But it isn't a reason to deny the theoretical possibility that in some cases at least atheism may be motivated by fear of something higher than oneself. — Apollodorus
...that phrasing suggests something quite distinct from "in some cases at least"; it suggests that this is a representative pattern.If you've got a degree in "cognitive psych" then why can't you explain atheists' fear of religion? — Apollodorus
And this is where you get even more nefarious. Apparently, @180 Proof has a condition; he's got a hidden fear of a being higher than himself he does not himself recognize, that drove him to research cognitive psychology. And the proof for this is that questioning it has not yet been proven, and his reaction to your gaslighting is emotional.Could this be the case of 180? — Apollodorus
Do atheists actively not want God to exist? — Georgios Bakalis
Maybe some atheists are afraid of having the idea of God in their head/mind. That wouldn't be such an unusual proposition. The atheist wants to have the totality of his mental space to himself, therefore he can't tolerate the idea of God. Could this be the case of 180? — Apollodorus
It is theoretically possible that some atheist somewhere is scared of a being higher than his/her self. — InPitzotl
Yes. I quoted the thing that's not quite right. Here it is again:Something isn't right there, don't you think? — Apollodorus
I quoted it in my first post.If you've got a degree in "cognitive psych" then why can't you explain atheists' fear of religion? — Apollodorus
And by the way, why do you care what an atheist thinks or how or why he thinks it? — tim wood
How does it answer anything? Well, that was a response to this:It wasn't me who brought up the issue of "degree in cognitive psych". How does it answer the OP question or anything? — Apollodorus
...sounds pretty relevant to me. You speculated about fears people have that they don't admit, and appealed to psychologists. 180 proof has a degree in cognitive psychology.People do tend to be reluctant to admit their own fears but that doesn't mean that those fears don't exist. Ask psychologists and they'll tel you. — Apollodorus
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