"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." Winston Churchill. — James Riley
Its a good idea in principle, and I have no doubt it would work with many people, but it would likely be very costly in practice. If you started paying or rewarding people to be vaccinated, even those who were already in favour would jump on the bandwagon, and probably even those who already had been vaccinated would demand that they be paid retrospectively as well, out of fairness. — Janus
That's a great line! — Janus
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the zombie apocalypse
— frank
That's when 'the bodies pile high', isn't it? — unenlightened
What are the arguments for and against the responsibility that individuals might be thought to bear to accept a Covid 19 vaccine? What are the arguments for and against the right that individuals might be thought to enjoy to refuse a Covid 19 vaccine? — Janus
No, but a probable personal catastrophe if one accepts the COVID vaccine. — baker
Allow me to re-phrase: this is a philosophy forum, not a forum for the analysis of epidemiology.
What are the philosophical considerations? Have they been addressed? — Banno
In an argument for the vaccine, one might point to times in history that vaccines decreased or at least substantially reduced the spread of a given disease. — Ladybug
People who have had COVID can repeatedly come down with it. The coronavirus is that of the common cold and will continue to mutate; research likely will not be able to keep up nor predict the next strain. — Ladybug
Forcing the vaccine on everyone would be disastrous, mainly because it does put other's health at risk. — Ladybug
Perhaps a better alternative to advocating for vaccines is to promote healthier lifestyles, which significantly reduce your chances of contracting not just COVID, but also a slew of other diseases. — Ladybug
they are individualists, and they should be FORCED to be cut off from all the amenities of living in a society, if they believe that their rights trump the needs of society. — god must be atheist
What are the arguments for and against the responsibility that individuals might be thought to bear to accept a Covid 19 vaccine? What are the arguments for and against the right that individuals might be thought to enjoy to refuse a Covid 19 vaccine? — Janus
You know I just happened to learn yesterday that China will now allow married couples to have three children. That's an increase from the two they were formerly allowed to have, which is itself an increase from the one kid they used to be allowed to have.
Based on your viewpoint, I assume you wholeheartedly support the right of the government to control who may reproduce and how many offspring they may have. — fishfry
Perhaps you would care to put your authoritarianism into context, lest I misunderstand you.
Or do I perhaps understand you far too well? — fishfry
Has anyone actually addressed the ethics? — Banno
The fact that you label anyone who has reservations about receiving an inadequately tested vaccine as a paranoid anti-vaxxer shows that you are not capable of rational argument or balanced views, so I'll leave you to your rabid fantasies. — Janus
I would have thought that working together to prevent the spread of a virus via masks and vaccination would mean that people will die in far fewer numbers.
The significant barriers to this are clearly the positions people hold on government and freedom and what counts as evidence. — Tom Storm
This is a huge, huge, huge lie. Chinese families had more than two children on the average per two parents. This is so easy to prove that you will fall off the chair. — god must be atheist
Hungary has had a less-than-two-children society. Not because of enforcement, but due to parents' choice. This resulted first in a stagnation per number in the society, which in the last decade started to dwindle. — god must be atheist
If, and only if, Chinese families had one or two children, like you and the rest of the math-stupid people claim, their numbers would have equalled the growth rate of Hungary. Because you guys with a North American education can't conceptualize the truth, that it does not matter whether you have a thousand people or a thousand billion, if each parent has two children, the growth rate should stay stagnant. — god must be atheist
But you and a billion other math-imbecilic people can't understand this. You are blinded by the huge population of China, so to you it's no surprise that in sixty years China has doubled its population, going on fast to tripling it. — god must be atheist
The Chinese are shrewd, and they know math. And they know the rest of the world hates math. This was a ridiculously easy sell for them. — god must be atheist
So don't give me this crap that that the Chinese forced their population to have one, later only two children. This is a myth they threw in your face, my friend, and you bought it as it were cupcakes. — god must be atheist
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