See,this is now quibbling over your rigid definitions.
Adjustment can also mean adapting to circumstances.
DO you want everyone to go mad or maladjust because society has problems? — Mystic
We have to get a little more nuanced here.
We can still function in an ill society without being dependent or diseased. I think the disease in society is a reflection of problems in hand yes,but not all humans. I don't believe in jungs shadow or original sin or western notions of ignorance needing liberation. — Mystic
Most folks want to confirm,they don't care about disease they just want comfort.
To folks who are not conformist and who have some cultural baggage one must just steadily rid oneself of intrusive thoughts and actions which are based on the disease of fear. — Mystic
Every society humans have ever put into action for more than 5 seconds has been profoundly sick. Only a miserable fool refuses to adjust to the inevitability of things being as they've always been. Said tortured fool will have greater odds of achieving some minor fleeting positive changes than a well-adjusted person, and well-adjusted people may cheer them on from the sidelines -- but degree of change achieved is not a measure of health. The complacent person who accepts things as they are lives a longer and more enjoyable life which is clearly healthier than the martyr of the latest revolution. — Paul
Isn't life grand?!Every society humans have ever put into action for more than 5 seconds has been profoundly sick. Only a miserable fool refuses to adjust to the inevitability of things being as they've always been. Said tortured fool will have greater odds of achieving some minor fleeting positive changes than a well-adjusted person, and well-adjusted people may cheer them on from the sidelines -- but degree of change achieved is not a measure of health. The complacent person who accepts things as they are lives a longer and more enjoyable life which is clearly healthier than the martyr of the latest revolution. — Paul
One can adjust without conformity. That is what many terrorist do. And we all know how good they are for society. — Sir2u
It's not my "theory", duh. Jesus. This is a philosophy forum, we shouldn't have to put up with misrepresentation like that.If like the original poster you're making the claim that being well-adjusted to society isn't better for your healthy than being maladjusted, then it's up to you to elucidate this strange theory of yours by which getting on the bad side of society is somehow going to make you healthier. — Paul
The point is that there are societies where the above is systemically impossible for some, or even many people, by no fault of their own. No matter how much they conform, they still end up living poor, short, miserable lives. This is what happens in a tyranny, a dictatorship, or a caste society for example.I'm defining health as a matter of... health. Living longer, having fewer diseases, being happier, not being in the dungeon getting flogged. — Paul
Aren't you part of that group of terrorists? — skyblack
Right, i was waiting for that shift from the topic to the person.Says it all. — skyblack
Carry on. — skyblack
Right, i was waiting for that shift from the topic to the person.Says it all.
— skyblack
Yes you are right, it is irritating when people start to get personal and insulting instead of discussing the topic.
Here is a very good example of someone doing exactly that.
Carry on.
— skyblack
Being dismissive is one of the easiest ways out for someone that has their head so far up their butt that they think the light they see is the brilliance of their intellect. The truth is that what they really see is the light shining though their ears into the empty space where their brain should be — Sir2u
When the participant IS in that state, as you so excellently describe above and has demonstrated it, as you have, and also has a history of the being part of a terrorist group engaging in acts of terrorism, in context of what we have already discussed, dismissing them politely is about the best alternative available to one who understands the value of correct usage of energy and time. Now, carry on. I will let you figure what that means this time. — skyblack
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