No, the mind of the camera-user is what puts the photo together. They do this first and then take the photo. It's a poor metaphor until you acknowledge this. — Noble Dust
the very thing which weaves all that together into a world is mind, which is not amongst those objects. — Wayfarer
This is also true of a camera taking film. — Isaac
The metaphor gets you from A to B, but you have to cast it off once you reach B. This is the classical mistake of analytic thought. — Noble Dust
It has to be fabricated by someone and then set up by someone. Cameras don't crop up in the landscape haphazardly. — Olivier5
No metaphor. — Isaac
No, the camera is a metaphor in this discussion. Read back if you need to. — Noble Dust
the very thing which weaves all that together into a world is mind, which is not amongst those objects. — Wayfarer
A camera does not film itself; you can't see the camera on film. — Pfhorrest
and your entire argument breaks down — Noble Dust
No, the mind of the camera-user is what puts the photo together. They do this first and then take the photo. It's a poor metaphor until you acknowledge this. — Noble Dust
So what if the camera is part of a bot whose job it is to wander around and take pictures of ducks? — khaled
And what is my argument that breaks down exactly? — khaled
And what is my argument that breaks down exactly?
— khaled
I have no idea, it just breaks down — Noble Dust
In 1958, Schrödinger, inspired by Schopenhauer from youth, published his lectures Mind and Matter. Here he argued that there is a difference between measuring instruments and human observation: a thermometer’s registration cannot be considered an act of observation, as it contains no meaning in itself. Thus, consciousness is needed to make physical reality meaningful. — Juan Marin, Quantum Mysticism - Gone but not Forgotten
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