Logical conclusions are only to clarify right and wrong and consistency in the arguments or claims, but they will not cause actions or decisions or beliefs of the people who are using it. — Corvus
But if for example I have a desire to kill let's say. Can't Logic affect my acts at the end?? Can't I use Logic to realize that this psychological desire is purely wrong and it will make my life also miserable?? I still believe that Logic is a way as to tame our psychological desires and filter them as to act in our own benefit at the end! Our desires aren't always in favor of our happiness but Logic for sure is.
By the way interesting what you mentioned about Modal logic. Never heard it. — dimosthenis9
racism is a matter totally out of Logic. — dimosthenis9
So you think it is mostly a genetic matter? — dimosthenis9
notice that if any of the premises are false, the conclusion can be either true or false. — TheMadFool
But my question is if that engine's work is cause of Intelligence or something else? — dimosthenis9
I see as one of the greatest problems that people (both in general as society but as individuals also)find extremely difficult to think Logically. I don't mean about beliefs or whatever but I mean in pure logic terms for their own personal benefit. For example racism is a matter totally out of Logic. In any terms there is no racist argument that can stand against Logic simply! But millions of people think like that. And I can mention hundreds other examples of out of logic thinking! — dimosthenis9
Logic isn't the cure for everything but for sure is what can lead people in happier lives. — dimosthenis9
I see Logic as the only reason someone has on his life. And how he can affect it. Using Logic to react in all circumstances for a better life. It's his only tool as to rule over his life. — dimosthenis9
Logical conclusions are only to clarify right and wrong and consistency in the arguments or claims, but they will not cause actions or decisions or beliefs of the people who are using it. Only psychological motives and wills will decide their decisions, beliefs and actions. (based on the logical conclusions). i.e. with the right conclusions, they can still make wrong / bad decisions and vice versa. — Corvus
There are many cases of people making up false logical propositions which are full of fallacies and just a pile of nonsensical mixture of contradictory sentences jumbled disguised as some sort of complicated logical statement. These are psychological traps to lure the others for parading their shady messages or endeavour to impress you for their intellectual superiority, which must be ignored at prima facie. — Corvus
Mostly agree with the argument and conclusion, but It is important to keep in mind that symbolic logic cannot capture all the intricacies of the English language. When an argument begins with false premise, and the conclusion is true, the whole argument can be judged as inconsistent. — Corvus
don't think logic is a matter of intelligence.
I think logic is just a tool to find the solution to a problem.
And intelligence is a way to measure someone's ability to use such tools. — Kinglord1090
And yet, here you have a philosophy forum full of unhappy people. — T Clark
Come on, so you say that we are totally unable to control our acts?? So what? Our life decisions are already given to us and we can't do anything about that?And what is that "somewhere else" that they come from at the end?? I disagree. Logic is not only about slowing you down and just postpone your decisions. It's about realize what is wrong and right mostly for you. I strongly doubt also that people without logic live such happy lives. Not that it can't happen but it's like winning by luck.I think Logic is a main requirement for happiness.Billions of people lead happy lives without depending on logic. Logic can't lead you anywhere, it can only, sometimes, maybe, slow you down or stop you, change direction a bit. The will to act, intention, comes from somewhere else — T Clark
Very few of the decisions you make, the actions you take, the attitudes and beliefs you hold are mediated by logic. They're not necessarily illogical, more likely non-logical. Most of what we know we don't know in the sense that we can justify it logically. — T Clark
By the way, what would be some examples of "...logic cannot capture all the intricacies of the English language"? — TheMadFool
:up:Logic is just tools for checking if the sentences are consistent without contradictions and fallacies in the arguments or propositions.
If the premise is wrong, then subsequent arguments and the conclusion will be wrong. — Corvus
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