How do you distinguish between philosophy and politics?
Would you say that we use philosophical worldviews to guide our political choices? — Joshs
There are many who don’t understand the philosophical-empirical underpinnings of gender as a separate category from sex. Thus, they justify their political decisions on the basis of this philosophical limitation. — Joshs
Even when you achieve this , it will still
be a slow process to get the language to evolve. — Joshs
For something about which no fucks are given, this topic attracts a lot of posts. — Banno
This seems like it is quite ignorant, you may not give a shit, but when it has been proven that using the correct pronouns can reduce the chance of that person becoming depressed and committing suicide, would you still claim that you have no moral responsibility if one of these actions are committed? Regardless of this, is it still right to not give a shit when these actions do affect the potentially safety of an individual? — Bradaction
Also it does not seem accurate to imply that it is too difficult to refer to someone as 'they'. This is because they is very commonly used in place of a gender pronoun, when one does not have any knowledge of the gender of the person they are referring to. I.e. Whose phone is that? 'I don't know, they left in a hurry." — Bradaction
Using the correct pronoun is simply commonplace regardless of the gender of the person. A woman misgendered as a 'he' would be immediately apologised to and the statement of incorrect genders would be retracted. — Bradaction
but we may justify our identity rather than simply being told who we are, and who we may become. — Jack Cummins
This is an issue many people won't be able to understand and, even if sympathetic, will struggle to practice. — Tom Storm
It's almost Trumpian, to me, for someone to assume they are important enough for others to remember their name, much less their preferred pronouns. — James Riley
Then it would also be Trumpian to simply call someone pronouns based on the way the appear. — Bradaction
It has nothing to do with the importance of the person, — Bradaction
Sometimes a little pressure and ostracism goes a long way: How long would it take you to notice the issue if people started referring to you as a different pronoun when you misgendered someone? People learn quickly when the feedback is quick and direct. — K Turner
This is a serious issue James Riley, the younger generation is suffering and the Boomers ignore their cries of pain/calls for reform. Denying someone's identity is tantamount to genocide. — K Turner
Age does not equal wisdom, and it would be fair to suggests that issues that the younger cohorts of people find troubling should be an issue for the older in society to find troubling, as the goal of society should be to improve it's future, not its present. Improving the future does require improving the present, but improving the present does not require improving the future. — Bradaction
My own view is that we should be able to choose our own identity, and, of course, we live in a social world of bodies, but we may justify our identity rather than simply being told who we are, and who we may become. — Jack Cummins
It is my understanding that people who refer to themselves as "genderqueer" don't consider themselves either males or females. Is that correct? — T Clark
Many, including myself, don't consider that a legitimate social distinction. It seems much more like a political statement than a social one. — T Clark
It's a slight irony that the future for humanity has little say is the systems that run it, people can only vote when they turn 18, meaning that there could be up to a 4 year electoral gap in issues not deemed worthy by people who are older. Age does not equal wisdom, and it would be fair to suggests that issues that the younger cohorts of people find troubling should be an issue for the older in society to find troubling, as the goal of society should be to improve it's future, not its present. Improving the future does require improving the present, but improving the present does not require improving the future. — Bradaction
If you want to legally change your name, at least in my state, you have to petition the court. — T Clark
A political statement is a term used to describe any act or non-verbal form of communication that is intended to influence a decision made for or by a political group. — Bradaction
Furthermore, identifying as genderqueer, has a much larger impact on society, and is thus a social distinction. For example, identifying as genderqueer actively challenges that social understanding of gender, which is a social construct. It also challenges Religious beliefs, which in the modern day, is mostly social, and not political. Atheists may even argue that religion too, is a social construct. On top of that gender non-conformity actively challenges family values and other values that are mainly political. — Bradaction
You're really young. Perhaps if you had a better understanding of what gay people have had to go through to get where they are today, it would give you a better perspective. — T Clark
In this forum, all I had to do to get my name changed was to petition the mods. It was an extemporaneous act of mine that so persuaded them...but it was in my better interest. — Leghorn
For my former user name was also my real one (which might have led to eventual difficulties...like if I decided to run for President), — Leghorn
I have become at least half of a famous cartoon chicken. — Leghorn
It's a slight irony that the future for humanity has little say is the systems that run it, people can only vote when they turn 18, meaning that there could be up to a 4 year electoral gap in issues not deemed worthy by people who are older. — Bradaction
That would work if there were a strong consensus in favor of the new pronouns, but this is not the case society-wide yet. It is currently concentrated in academia , some larger corporations and among younger populations. — Joshs
Gender Orientation and Sexual Orientation are different topics, — Bradaction
As with the thread on climate change, staying calm and sticking to facts is more convincing than excessive hyperbole. — jgill
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