All that is fine.
Here's another idea: If we replace "most people" with "the other person", the proposition becomes "What the other person (or group) would want". Because your action is directed to a specific person (or group) and thus it is more direct and fair than considering what others in general would want ... — Alkis Piskas
I'd like to see Isaac's response to that — schopenhauer1
But then a parent doesn't have the benefit of knowing the specific person's experiences or evaluations in the world, so ergo the "most people" defense — schopenhauer1
I'm not sure who the "experts" are in judging life's goodness or other qualities, — schopenhauer1
You're missing the point.. A majority of people can be wrong.. — schopenhauer1
mixing up a thought-experiment with thinking I didn't know history. — schopenhauer1
First you dismiss majority vote as being indicative of what’s right. Then you dismiss expert opinion. And now you even dismiss subjective evaluations.
There is nothing left. You’ve made the right thing to do unknowable. — khaled
Is it sufficient if what action is being taken is imposing X things on another person, and doing so unnecessarily (not ameliorating greater with lesser harm)? — schopenhauer1
Is it sufficient if what action is being taken is imposing X things on another person, and doing so unnecessarily (not ameliorating greater with lesser harm)? — schopenhauer1
I'd like to see Isaac's response to that. — schopenhauer1
So, give an example of a time period where the majority of people thought something was right but it turns out to be wrong (ethically) — khaled
Or does having children just occasionally happen to be the example with this phenomenon never occurring at any other time. Seems kind of suspicious. — khaled
I thought we went over this already in previous threads. You and I said yes. Examples being surprise parties/gifts. Those impose a risk of harm and don’t alleviate anything. — khaled
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