If you gonna make people stop believing in religions then WHAT could replace God? How can you convince people to be "good" ??? — dimosthenis9
What makes you think religions or god beliefs make people behave morally? — Tom Storm
The other problem with a belief in God is that theists have no moral foundation — Tom Storm
Just consult the Taliban. — Tom Storm
Just consider issues like gay rights, the role of women, drug policy, capital punishment, euthanasia - these moral issues do not unite theists — Tom Storm
Many of them have believed in God. This does not prevent them from being violent, from stealing, lying, murdering, dealing drugs, abandoning their children... Name the crime; a religious person is likely to have done it. — Tom Storm
So are we sure that world would be a better place without religions?! — dimosthenis9
And atheists have?? — dimosthenis9
Taliban are evil cause of religion? They are evil cause they choose to be. Religion is their cover and their "excuse" as to act like that. — dimosthenis9
And unite atheists? — dimosthenis9
But it is not what I claimed. — dimosthenis9
2.If you gonna make people stop believing in religions then WHAT could replace God? How can you convince people to be "good" ??? — dimosthenis9
That vast majority of people worldwide reach to a high average intellectual level... — dimosthenis9
It is not simply about overthrowing religion, but finding connections with the deepest aspects of ourselves, including the numinous and the essential values for living. — Jack Cummins
...are we sure that world would be a better place without religions? — dimosthenis9
I don't agree. The problem is not lack of evidence. The problem is belief in the face of the evidence — Banno
It's the basic dishonesty of religion that renders it culpable. — Banno
Your wider question about convincing people to be good I didn't answer since you made assumptions along the way which needed clarification.
You can't convince people to be good (whatever that is). — Tom Storm
As above. Atheists and theists share the same basis for morality. — Tom Storm
I think it is perfectly possible to construct a moral system without religious beliefs. Upbringing, education, and a legal system would be quite adequate to enforce proper conduct. — Apollodorus
People still have to decide for themselves regardless of theism. — Tom Storm
I find that possible also. But how that construction would work for folk troubles me. What would be the fundamental base of that moral system? From where morals would come from? And how we could convince people follow it without any God "punishment"? — dimosthenis9
What can replace god? Silence. — Banno
Hence, Virtue Ethics. — Banno
What would be the fundamental base of that moral system? From where morals would come from? And h — dimosthenis9
And how we could convince people follow it without any God "punishment"? — dimosthenis9
Suppose there is a "fundamental base"; it remains that one must chose to follow it, or no. — Banno
On what basis could one make the choice, without already having made that choice? — Banno
Hence, as I suppose you might agree, the point is not to follow some fundamental moral system, but to become a better person. — Banno
What can replace god? Silence — Banno
I fail to see how God helps in any way on this matter — Tom Storm
For me God helps as not more people to act evil — dimosthenis9
Many people try to act good cause of God's fear or reward. — dimosthenis9
. I would prefer some religion to Juche socialism. — NOS4A2
I seem to carry around this unseen witness to keeps tabs on my own behavior — NOS4A2
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