What should the state be responsible for? And why? — frank
What should the state be responsible for? And why? — frank
He who does not work, neither shall he eat — frank
It looks like various societies through history have left some members without basic needs per principle. Why would this be wrong? — frank
but it is clear that vast resources are spent trying to eliminate the consequences of reckless behavior, and I wonder the societal effects of that. — NOS4A2
What should the state be responsible for? And why? — frank
It is interesting your example: "pregnant teens." this is an issue which are the states have to deal with. — javi2541997
If family, churches, or charitable organizations, etc. cannot do it, then the state has a duty to step in and help out in some way. — Apollodorus
but it is clear that vast resources are spent trying to eliminate the consequences of reckless behavior, and I wonder the societal effects of that. — NOS4A2
Let's back away from social engineering via heartless and criminally inclined paramedics.
Why should a drug addict be more responsible for herself than we are to her? What's the principle?
Is this view based on a principle such as liberalism? Ot what? — frank
The principle is that there are risks to certain behavior, and if people do not suffer them society will never learn to avoid them. — NOS4A2
What should the state be responsible for? And why? — frank
Yes, some people suffer the risk of certain behavior while others learn from their example. While you may blame yourself and society for the conditions of some, I refrain from idealizing my object, and am still capable of knowing that some happen to bear the penalties of their misdeeds.
Is misery not a natural consequence of certain behavior? The assumption that all social suffering is removable, and that it is the duty of the state (never yourself) to remove it, is as artificial as it is false. All you can do is penalize society for the wretchedness of a few. — NOS4A2
All legal, so on what grounds could we deny the reward gained from doing so (or from one's ancestors having done so - as with inherited wealth)? — Isaac
Look to what Neandertals did for each other in and around the cave. — James Riley
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