Are you Damir Ivancevic? :smile:I have a short theory of consciousness (https://www.iamdamir.com/what-is-consciousness). — Pop
Speaking of Romanticism, let’s get back to Peirce. — Joshs
The present argument is that he does not move as far from an Enlightenment rationalism as his more committed followers claim.’
(Andrew Stables)
Sounds awfully Romantic to me. — Joshs
I'm currently reading The Anthropic Cosmological Principle, by Astronomer Barrow & Physicist Tipler. I was superficially aware that AP was a religious and philosophical position on the human-friendly universe. But I didn't know that it was also a serious scientific hypothesis. This book is 700 pages of dense philosophical reasoning, and scientific analysis, but no overtly religious assertions at all. The early chapters give an exhaustive history of the concept from Ancient Greece to Quantum Cosmology. And the middle sections are full of complex mathematical expressions (equations), and technical analysis. So, I have been impressed with the serious thought that has been put into a notion that has been marginalized by post-Enlightenment Science.In other words - who does the thinking? - the thing that integrates the information - my best guess is the anthropic principle. What is your best guess? The anthropic principle integrates the information, but acts on different information ( unique consciousness ) ?? :smile: — Pop
It's quippy, but it's wrong as Pop pointed out. — Kenosha Kid
Would you equalize them necessarily? — Pop
Cool, where those states are assumed equiprobable, and in which case the analogy according to the linked Wikipedia page is that information is the _number_of messages available to... send? ... store? ... explore? ... whatever, but the cardinality of the message space. The number of alternatives. — bongo fury
sounds like any old woo. Please explain. — bongo fury
Is it like, the actual message sent along a channel would have its own surprise value, its Shannon 'self-information', not specified by the source's entropy, i.e. the Shannon information of the whole message space? — bongo fury
The original issue here was phenomenology’s roots in Cartesian dualism and representationalism. — apokrisis
Romanticism is then the more general dualistic response to Enlightenment materialism - an effort to appeal to the reality of the ideal and sublime. — apokrisis
Peirce might follow in Kant and Hegel’s footsteps in developing their antimonies and dialectics into a full blooded story of hierarchical development. But he went way beyond in pin-pointing the mediating role of a sign relation that forges a self along with its world. As I say, he showed epistemology and ontology to be two versions on the one rational structure of relations. — apokrisis
So the conclusion is that Peirce is essentially still a rationalist - ie; argued a structuralist case. And you want to say that sounds like idealism-tinged metaphysics to you? — apokrisis
Entropy is a function of the number of possible messages. — Kenosha Kid
Information is still afaik the content of those messages — Kenosha Kid
Shannon information is the particular things we'd need to know about something to e.g. build a copy or predict its future behaviour. Shannon entropy is essentially the number of things we'd need to know (or rather a function of that number). — Kenosha Kid
I happen to prefer the notion of a Cosmic Program, with built-in directions, but no pre-determined Final Answer — Gnomon
But how does an abstract Principle think and act, unless it is also a free agency with goals and intentions? Does Reason overrule Chance? — Gnomon
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