Oh whatever. Rule over me — dimosthenis9
Universe bless you then. — dimosthenis9
But at the end is something else that can be done in engineering except simplification (despite its faults of course)? According to science so far aren't these models the best (or less bad at least as to put it that way) way as to build things?? Of course they need improvement but I guess engineering at the past was much worse than nowadays. I guess many more disastrous projects occurred at the past. But isn't that natural since human knowledge gets bigger? Maybe in future these oversimplified models might get much better also. — dimosthenis9
So same with Logic, seems Engineering also has to deal with a real Chaotic environment and we demand the best possible solution from it. As we demand from Logic the best possible solution in chaotic human societies and chaotic existential problems that a person faces on his own also. Shouldn't we be a little soft both in engineering models and Logic also? Recognize the hardships they have to deal with. — dimosthenis9
learn the MBTI — MikeListeral
The way to deal with engineering is to use it in it's appropriate role and not to use it when it's not appropriate. — T Clark
I was never arguing against logic in the kind of role you are describing. I have only been saying it's not the only way and it's not the best way for me. There is not just one way and not just one good way. — T Clark
a temporal social thing and not a fundamental fact of reality and that it could be completely bipolar different a thousand years from now than it is now because it's only grounded in society in the time that you live in — MAYAEL
And in scenarios where I've seen a very smart person be a dumbass there is usually some form of attachment to the situation usually in the form of information that's taboo or just in general they don't want others to know or some root desire causing them to toss logic to the side in almost a schizophrenic desperate attempt at obtaining an end result a — MAYAEL
The position at 1 is to pause for thought — Fine Doubter
Bad thinking in families or social classes isn't in genes — Fine Doubter
It took me 30 years to overcome shame and my schooling and family are fairly lucky. — Fine Doubter
we have to keep in mind that there are people like for instance in the rainforest that have zero Western education so by Western standpoint they are not intelligent and yet they have figured out a way to survive in the rainforest which is a very hard place to find nutrients and clean water despite its name — MAYAEL
it requires somebody with extremely strong willpower to redirect the body and stop doing these self-damaging things — MAYAEL
I very very very rarely come across somebody it actually holds the same goal in mind I usually am disappointed as I watch people turn a blind eye to the most horrific perspectives just so they won't have to have anxiety for have to re contemplate and form an opinion on something — MAYAEL
Is the whole thing a creepy racist dog whistle? — Cheshire
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