Here's a particularly deep song

Oriente
Gilberto Gil

Se oriente, rapaz
Pela constelação do Cruzeiro do Sul
Se oriente, rapaz
Pela constatação de que a aranha
Vive do que tece
Vê se não se esquece
Pela simples razão de que tudo merece
Consideração

Considere, rapaz
A possibilidade de ir pro Japão
Num cargueiro do Lloyd lavando o porão
Pela curiosidade de ver
Onde o sol se esconde
Vê se compreende
Pela simples razão de que tudo depende
De determinação

Determine, rapaz
Onde vai ser seu curso de pós-graduação
Se oriente, rapaz
Pela rotação da Terra em torno do Sol
Sorridente, rapaz
Pela continuidade do sonho de Adão

Orient

Orient yourself, young man
To the constellation of the Southern Cross
Orient yourself, young man
In the knowledge that the spider
Lives on what he weaves
Make sure you don't forget
For the simple reason that everything deserves
Consideration

Consider, young man
The possibility of going to Japan
In a Lloyd cargo ship cleaning the hold
Out of curiosity of seeing
Where the sun hides
See if you understand
For the simple reason that everything depends
On determination

Determine, young man
Where your postgrad course will be
Orient yourself, young man
To the earth's rotation around the sun
Smiling, young man
In the continuation of Adam's dream

Pain or damage don’t end the world, or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you’re dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man – and give some back.

Every fuckin’ beatin’ I’m grateful for. Every fuckin’ one of them. Get all the trust beat outta you. And you know what the fuckin’ world is.

“You can't slit the throat of everyone whose character it would improve.”

Say what you’re gonna say or prepare for eternal fucking silence.

Truth is, as a base of operations, you cannot beat a fucking saloon. — A throat-cuttin', Limey cocksucka

"God,'s Gonna Cut You Down" (instrumental, 2:39)
Johnny Cash, 2003
traditional folk arrangement, c1930s
Deadwood, 2004-2006 (trailer)

Sheryl Crow - Everyday Is A Winding Road (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khrx-zrG460

I hitched a ride with a vending machine repair man
He says he's been down this road more than twice
He was high on intellectualism
I've never been there but the brochure looks nice
Jump in, let's go
Lay back, enjoy the show
Everybody gets high, everybody gets low,
These are the days when anything goes

[Chorus]
Everyday is a winding road
I get a little bit closer
Everyday is a faded sign
I get a little bit closer to feeling fine

He's got a daughter he calls Easter
She was born on a Tuesday night
I'm just wondering why I feel so all alone
Why I'm a stranger in my own life
Jump in, let's go
Lay back, enjoy the show
Everybody gets high, everybody gets low
These are the days when anything goes

[Chorus]

I've been swimming in a sea of anarchy
I've been living on coffee and nicotine
I've been wondering if all the things I've seen
Were ever real, were ever really happening

[Chorus]

LESLEY DUNCAN | SING CHILDREN SING | Charity Single 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4KRukPmfhU

Though you feel at times, you just can't win
Sing, sing, children, sing
That you give is known, so don't give in
Sing, sing, children, sing

Sing of the true way
Sing of the time
Show them the new way
Let your light shine

He who lights the fire must surely burn
Turn, turn, children, turn
From the ones who see, but will not learn
Turn, turn, children, turn

Turn from the darkness
Turn all the way
Look for the sunshine -
Then don't turn away

For everyone who doesn't stand, must fall
Call, call, children, call
And he who finds himself then finds us all
Call, call, children, call

Call to the broken
Call to the hate
Let the word be spoken
Before it's too late
https://lyricstranslate.com

Well, if you can call a Eurovision entry 'deep' :chin:
Winning Eurovision in 1997 for the UK Katrina and the Waves sang Love Shine a Light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoikRec67k

Love shine a light, in every corner of my heart
Let the love light carry, let the love light carry
Light up the magic in every little part
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of our hearts

Love shine a light, in every corner of my dreams
Let the love light carry, let the love light carry
Like the mighty river, flowing from the stream
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of my dreams

And we're all gonna shine a light together
All shine a light to light a way
Brothers and sisters, in every little part
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of our hearts

Love shine a light, in every corner of the world
Let the love light carry, let the love light carry
Light up the magic, for every boy and girl
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of the world

And we're all gonna shine a light together
All shine a light to light a way
Brothers and sisters, in every little part
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of our hearts

And we're all gonna shine a light together
All shine a light to light the way
Brothers and sisters, in every little part
Let our love shine a light, in every corner of our hearts

Zucchero - Amore Adesso! (No Time for Love Like Now - Michael Stipe & Aaron Dessner)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8zgIr6meic

La Serenissima
Sabato 2 Maggio 2020 - Ore 18.00
Covid quiet.

***
Amore Adesso
Non è più tempo
di gioia e lacrime
amore adesso, ora
e non c’è tempo nel bardo
né tempo di qua o di là
amore adesso, ora
tempo per danzare
tempo per le decisioni
amore adesso, ora

Chi ci ha cambiato tutto questo
i nostri fragili giorni bui
scintille cadute su noi
curiosa luce io mi allontanai
e… col cuore in pianto andai
ovunque sia questo posto qui
io ti aspetto, lo sai

E non è più il tempo
di salmi o limiti, no
sussurri e prediche ormai

Ma chi ci ha cambiato tutto questo
i nostri fragili giorni bui
scintille cadute su noi
curiosa luce io mi allontanai
e… col cuore in pianto andai

Ovunque sia questo posto qui
io ti aspetto, lo sai
eco di voci lontane
love love love
le sento ovunque sei
ed io ti aspetto lo sai
io ti aspetto lo sai
ovunque sia questo posto qui
io ti aspetto lo sai
sì, io ti aspetto lo sai
io ti aspetto lo sai

***

English translation
Love Now
There's no more time
For joy and tears
Love now, now
And there's no time in the bard
No time this way or that way
Love now, now
Time to dance
Time for decision-making
Love now, now

Who changed all of this for us
Our vulnerable dark days
Sparks landed on us
Curious light, I wandered away
And...with a weeping heart, I moved on
No matter where, your place is here
I'm waiting for you, you know

And there's no time
For psalms or limits, no
Whispering and preaching now

But who changed all of this for us
Our vulnerable dark days
Sparks landed on us
Curious light, I wandered away
And...with a weeping heart, I moved on

No matter where, your place is here
I'm waiting for you, you know
The echoes of voices in the distance
Love love love
I hear them wherever you are
And I'm waiting for you, you know
I'm waiting for you, you know
No matter where, your place is here
I'm waiting for you, you know
Yes, I'm waiting for you, you know
I'm waiting for you, you know
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/amore-adesso-love-now.html

J.S. Bach: Complete Lute Music -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1XB2IorNTM

...This recording thus presents four compositions in suite form and three pieces of a different nature, all belonging to the florid repertoire of the courtly Salonmusik that was in vogue among the German upper classes at the time. Performing them is acclaimed Italian lutenist Mario D’Agosto, whose changes in tonality aim to better serve the capacities of the instrument (BWV 996 and 997, for instance, were written for the ‘Lautenwerk’, a sort of lute-harpsichord favoured by Bach) and whose embellishments are testament to the high level of ornamentation which played such an intrinsic role in baroque performance practice. — Composer: Johann Sebastian Bach Artist: Mario D'Agosto (lute)

:death: :flower:


"Ashes to Ashes" (4:23)
Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps), 1980
David Bowie

Zucchero - Blu (Live Acoustic) - Arena di Verona
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ke1YZYld0MY

English version:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gWiZK3xhrJU

For later:
Zucchero Full album - Zucchero greatest hits 2021 - Zucchero best songs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=njCPIDlRQw4

There's this puppet
Who goes: "no, no, no, no!"
All day long
She says: "no, no, no, no!"

She is so pretty
That I dream of her at night
No one ever taught her
That one could say "yes"

Without even listening
She goes "no, no, no, no!"
Without looking at me
She goes "no, no, no, no!"

Yet I would give my life
For her to say "yes"
But she's only a doll
Who goes "no, no, no, no!"

All day long
She goes "no, no, no, no!"
No one ever taught her
That one could say yes

No no no no!
No no no no!

A shopping mall girl
Getting off the limo
In her tricoline dress
Passing by the window
Of my heart
And she didn't even see me

Hey, shopping mall girl
In your petulant way
Drinking soda on the escalator
In the middle of the lobby
I said: Psst!

My heart is on a toast
I'm on sale

But who was born to a gecko
Alligator never becomes
I already spent all my chips
In this woman
Who doesn't like samba
Who doesn't walk
She is pretty damn beautiful
And doesn't go easy

My heart is on a toast
I'm on sale

Let's go to a lounge
And talk about TV
Let's go far
Without touching the eyes
Go find yourself and get lost
Let you and me get close
So I can get lost once and for all in your inks
One night a little in the morning
Just so I can see if your eyes change color

Lets go in
My house is not hot
I bring the [heater?] to heat
Let's sweat
With snake venom
That I stole to sting you

Let you and me get close
So I can get lost once and for all in your inks
One night a little in the morning
Just so I can see if your eyes change color

This one is for the Allende family and the people of Chile on the 48th anniversary of "9-11" :fire: :death:


"9-1-1 Is A Joke" (3:17)
Fear of a Black Planet, 1990
Public Enemy

Following 'Metaphysics of Poetry' discussion:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/592972

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme [Full Album] (1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll3CMgiUPuU


From: 'Creating Poetry' - John Drury
Ch XI - Other Arts, Other Influences, p184

Poems can imitate musical forms.
Michael Harper uses jazz as both inspiration and subject matter in poems such as 'Dear John, Dear Coltrane' and 'A Love Supreme' ( title of Coltrane's four movement masterpiece). — Drury

Dear John
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42827/dear-john-dear-coltrane

Already a quarter century of raging ... :fire:


Evil Empire, 1996 (46:37)
Rage Against the Machine

s - Zack de la Rocha
g - Tom Morello
b - Tim Commerford
d - Brad Wilk

This is about the Arsène Lupin character, of recent Netflix fame. Depth estimated at 2 cm, give or take.


He's the biggest thief of them all
Yes, but he's a gentleman
He takes hold of your money
Without holding a gun to your head
When he steals from a woman
He send flowers
Gentleman Burglar
Is a true nobleman

He comes to your house at night
Without disturbing you in your sleep
He picks up quietly the painting
Bought the day before
Then before leaving
After his guilty works
He leaves a note on the piano

He's the biggest thief of them all
Yes, but he's a gentleman
And every woman in her own time
Dreams of seeing his face
From the actress to the dancer
And to the best of wives
Gentleman Burglar
Won the heart

This is about the Arsène Lupin character, of recent Netflix fame. — Olivier5

Another reason for me to subscribe to Netflix, I suppose.
I seem to miss out on so much fun...

I wonder if there is another kind of a 'steal' going on ?
Écoutez !

C'est le plus grand des voleurs

Kitty Kallen - If I Give My Heart to You (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERrLmR1FsU

If I give my heart to you

:hearts:

Another reason for me to subscribe to Netflix, I suppose.
I seem to miss out on so much fun... — Amity

The first 6 episodes of Lupin are quite entertaining, then it goes South. Another series on Netflix I recommend: The 100.

Kitty Kallen - If I Give My Heart to You — Amity

I checked. The music of "Gentleman Cambrioleur" is credited to Jean-Pierre Bourtayre. Maybe he was "inspired" by "If I Give My Heart to You"?

This being about the greatest thief ever, it makes it okay to "steal with pride".

Rock 'n' Roll Suicide - David Bowie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYNgptAux88

Time takes a cigarette, puts it in your mouth
You pull on your finger, then another finger, then your cigarette
The wall-to-wall is calling, it lingers, then you forget
Ohhh how how how, you're a rock 'n' roll suicide

You're too old to lose it, too young to choose it
And the clocks waits so patiently on your song
You walk past a cafe but you don't eat when you've lived too long
Oh, no, no, no, you're a rock 'n' roll suicide

Chev brakes are snarling as you stumble across the road
But the day breaks instead so you hurry home
Don't let the sun blast your shadow
Don't let the milk float ride your mind
They're so natural - religiously unkind

Oh no love! you're not alone
You're watching yourself but you're too unfair
You got your head all tangled up but if I could only
make you care
Oh no love! you're not alone
No matter what or who you've been
No matter when or where you've seen
All the knives seem to lacerate your brain
I've had my share, I'll help you with the pain
You're not alone

Just turn on with me and you're not alone
Let's turn on with me and you're not alone (wonderful)
Gimme your hands cause you're wonderful (wonderful)
Gimme your hands cause you're wonderful (wonderful)
Oh gimme your hands.

From 1966:
The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby (From "Yellow Submarine")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS5NuXRb5Y

Ah, look at all the lonely people
Ah, look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby
Picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window
Wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for?

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?

Father McKenzie
Writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near
Look at him working
Darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there
What does he care?

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?

Ah, look at all the lonely people

Ah, look at all the lonely people

Eleanor Rigby
Died in the church and was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie
Wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved

All the lonely people (ah, look at all the lonely people)
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people (ah, look at all the lonely people)
Where do they all belong?

Songwriters: Lennon John Winston, Mccartney Paul James
For non-commercial use only.
Data from: Musixmatch

***
I had to analyse this song in an OU module 'Start Listening to Music'.
It proved to be an unbelievably exhausting and exhilarating exercise.
Really ear opening. Also, the community chat - never to be forgotten.
Unfortunately, such short modules were discontinued - as the OU changed...

I hadn't a clue when I heard it in 1966, exactly what it held. Extraordinary.
Learning how to really listen - so important in all aspects of life.

....Two string quartets – comprised of four violins, two cellos, and two violas, scored by George Martin – would become central to “Eleanor Rigby.” The biting sound that McCartney and George Martin sought was achieved with the help of engineer Geoff Emerick who, according to Rolling Stone, “was determined to capture the sound of bows striking strings with an immediacy previously unheard on any recording, classical or rock…” In order to achieve this, Emerick miked the instruments separately and had the musicians sit close to the mics. And the proof, as they say, is in the pudding, as the strings stand out on “Eleanor Rigby” – clearly audible, dominant, and not syrupy at all. The Beatles, however, do not play any instruments on “Eleanor Rigby;” the octet is the only music. McCartney provides the lead vocal, double-tracked, with Lennon and Harrison adding harmonies. — pophistory - eleanor rigby - beatles

https://www.pophistorydig.com/topics/eleanor-rigby-beatles/

"Salt Peanuts" (3:18)
78 rpm A-side single, 1945
composers Dizzy Gillespie, with Kenny Clarke, 1942/3
performers Dizzy Gillespie and His All-Stars

*



"Peanuts" (4:02)
Outlandos d'Amour, 1978
writers Sting & Stewart Copeland
performers The Police

"Miles Runs the Voodoo Down" (14:04)
Bitches Brew, 1970
Miles Davis

& this ... :point:

Follow-up to:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/596844

Eleanor Rigby (Strings Only / Anthology 2 Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZA6jtxtTfQ&t=0s

Edit:
Been trying to find the score and lyrics combined. So far, only scored this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIs6J4XkOKQ

20 pages on - a return to One. Thanks @Olivier5
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/8898/deep-songs/p1

U2 - One (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftjEcrrf7r0

One

Is it getting better?
Or do you feel the same?
Will it make it easier on you now
You got someone to blame?

You say one love, one life
When it's one need in the night
One love, we get to share it
Leaves you, baby, if you don't care for it

Did I disappoint you?
Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?
You act like you never had love
You want me to go without

Is it too late, tonight
To drag the past out into the light?
We're one, but we're not the same
We get to carry each other, carry each other
One

Have you come here for forgiveness?
Have you come to raise the dead?
Have you come here to play Jesus
To the lepers in your bed?

Did I ask too much, more than a lot?
You gave me nothing, now it's all I've got
We're one, but we're not the same
Well, we hurt each other, then we do it again

You say
Love is a temple, love a higher law
Love is a temple, love the higher law
You ask me to enter, then you make me crawl
And I can't be holding on to what you've got
When all you got is hurt

One love, one blood
One life you got to do what you should
One life with each other, sisters, brothers
One life, but we're not the same
We get to carry each other, carry each other

One
One

-----

* NB - Final verses as copied here are not sung in the video. All the better for it !

[ Do you hear me coming Lord?
Can you hear me call?
Hear me knockin', knockin' at your door?

Do you hear me coming Lord?
Can you hear me calling?
Feel the scratching?
Ooh you make me crawl

Thank you ]

Songwriters: Clayton Adam, Bono
For non-commercial use only.
Data from: Musixmatch

... "losing love
Is like a window in your heart
Everybody sees you're blown apart
Everybody sees the wind blow"
~Paul Simon, "Graceland"

Following on from another discussion re difficulties in translation/interpretation in music/poetry:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/598712

Translating songs:

The song translation process becomes more complicated since the translator has to adjust the translation into a language where historical and cultural references of the target audience are involved. For example, the songs Bed of Roses by Bon Jovi and Yesterday by the Beatles are significant and poignant in their original language. However, even if there are several translations of these songs in other languages, the sensitivity that is in the original song is lost.

But we have to note that there are also songs that are more beautiful when performed in other languages, such as:

Life of Mars by David Bowie, performed in Portuguese by Seu Jorge
Paint it Black by The Rolling Stones, performed by Caterina Caselli in Italian (Tutto Nero)
Hotel California by The Eagles, performed in Spanish by Gipsy Kings
Baby Love by The Supremes, sang in French by Annie Philippe
Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin, performed by Rodrigo y Gabriela with a flamenco guitar
Somebody to Love by Queen, performed in Spanish by Ednita Nazario
Stand by Me by E King, performed by Adriano Celentano in Italian — Translating songs

So, to check out the bold claim, I picked out 'Paint it, Black':

The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black (Official Lyric Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg

Compare:
Caterina Caselli - Tutto Nero (Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones Cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDYpag3JDVw

Parallel Engish/Italian translations here:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/tutto-nero-all-black.html-0

All Black
At night the starless sky is all black,
the same (for) my heart till the last thought.
My life, without you, has no colour any more:
There is an eternal, desperate night inside me.

Tutto nero
Di notte il cielo senza stelle è tutto nero
così il mio cuore fino all'ultimo pensiero.
Non ha più colore la mia vita senza di te
c'è un'eterna notte disperata dentro di me...

***
The white walls of the room are black.
Where is the light that renders the existence beautiful?
Those who walk towards me in the streets look and don't know
that, for my sight, even the sun will be black...

Son nere le pareti bianche della stanza.
Dov'è la luce che fa bella l'esistenza?
Chi mi viene incontro per le strade guarda e non sa
che per il mio sguardo anche il sole nero sarà...

***
And, like a newborn baby looks for the world,
I look for the love that I lost and am crying.
How will I face life if I am missing you,
if the white morning dawn I will see it in black?

E come un bimbo appena nato cerca il mondo,
io cerco il bene che ho perduto e sto piangendo.
Affrontar la vita, se mi manchi, come farò
se la bianca aurora del mattino nera vedrò?...

***
Of black ink has become the green sea
since I came to know that you won't ever be able to come back.
Every day will always be the hour of the sunset.
My world is black like the darkness is black.

Di inchiostro nero è diventato il verde mare
da quando so che non potrai più ritornare.
Ogni giorno l'ora del tramonto sempre sarà.
Il mio mondo è nero com'è nera l'oscurità...

***

At night the starless sky is all black,
the same (for) my heart till the last thought.
My life, without you, has no colour any more:
There is an eternal, desperate night inside me.

Mm mm mm mm mm mm...

Di notte il cielo senza stelle è tutto nero
così il mio cuore fino all'ultimo pensiero.
Non ha più colore la mia vita senza di te,
c'è un'eterna notte disperata dentro di me...

***
And, like a newborn baby looks for the world,
I look for the love that I lost and am crying.
Mm mm mm mm mm mm....

E come un bimbo appena nato cerca il mondo,
io cerco il bene che ho perduto e sto piangendo ....

------

So, is the Italian version 'more beautiful' ?
Hmmm...is it more of less deep/dark...or just different...
Is there something lost or gained in translation ?
Does it even matter ?

Meghan Trainor - Close Your Eyes (Official Audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGv0CYTe3eA

"Close Your Eyes"

Everybody's on the same page
No new chapters
We'll never change

Everybody wants to be cool, yes they do...
And I'm just like them
But I won't be no fool

I guess I could waste all my time and my money, just trying to look right
But it doesn't change who I am in my heart if I look like a dime

So I want you to close your eyes
Sing to the world tonight
And show them what's beautiful
I don't care what they think
No, I'm not listening
'Cause I know I'm beautiful
So close your eyes

(Sh-sh-show them what's beautiful sh-sh-show them what's beautiful)
Come and show them... Uh... Hey...
(Sh-sh-show them what's beautiful
Sh-sh-show them what's beautiful)

Everybody's born to be different
That's the one thing that makes us the same
So don't you let their words try to change you
Don't let them make you, into something you ain't... No!

So I want you to close your eyes
Sing to the world tonight
And show them what's beautiful
I don't care what they think
No, I'm not listening
'Cause I know I'm beautiful
So close your eyes

(Sh-sh-show them what's beautiful)

Show the world the you inside
Raise your voice and close your eyes
'Cause you're beautiful...
Come on and show the world the you inside
Raise your voice and close your eyes
'Cause you're beautiful...

So I want you to close your eyes
Sing to the world tonight
And show them what's beautiful
I don't care what they think
No, I'm not listening
'Cause I know I'm beautiful
So close your eyes

Les Passantes (the Passers-by)



Sorry, can't translate this, it'd be too hard. A poem by Antoine Pol sung by Brassens, with a very nice (and very feminist) video by Charlotte Abramow. The lyrics are about all the women whom one man met for a few fleeting moments throughout his life, and dared not approach, and how he remembers them later. It's sounds awful, said like this...