What's the difference between having no hammer and having a broken hammer? — TheMadFool
You can repair the hammer. — Tom Storm
The problem with most positions in this thread is with people's obsession with "absolute" concepts. — Nickolasgaspar
Only a Sith deals in absolutes — Obi-Wan Kenobi
What's the difference between having no hammer and having a broken hammer?
Same as the difference between having no car and having a car with an empty fuel tank ... having no body and having a dead body ... etc.
How does one know whether a proposition is factually true?
Equivocating "know" again. Just look: It's raining iff it's raining. Also, sound inferential arguments.
Justification?
Foundherentism (S. Haack) works for me. — 180 Proof
Knowledge is just one reason why people accept a claim. — Nickolasgaspar
Btw there is one standard for identifying a claim as knowledge but many ways to produce knowledge claims — Nickolasgaspar
Now you will need a second qualifier for a belief that is unverified...that is faith. The term "belief" IS the umbrella term and the qualifier changes with its status of verification.
Do we agree on that? — Nickolasgaspar
-A belief is by definition something that we agree and accept without force. — Nickolasgaspar
I have been thinking about how I was encouraged to use the expression, 'I believe' on some academic courses as an ownership of ideas? I am wondering about the nature of 'belief', and what that means in terms of personal construction of meaning and the wider scope of meaning? Does " belief' make any sense at all beyond the scope of personal meanings, and how can the idea of belief be seen in the wider scope of philosophy, especially in relation to objective and subjective aspects of thinking? — Jack Cummins
For instance, you can say you believe in angels or God, but if you literally say, I believe the ocean is blue, something is off because belief doesn't enter into it. You understand the ocean is blue, you see it. It's not an issue of belief.
This might be one of those words that gets you stuck in a fly bottle. — Manuel
I think that your concept of faith as the emotional aspect of belief is important because human beings are not guided by reason alone, but by a complex mixture of the two. It may be a problem if people develop 'faith' on the basis of emotional needs entirely, but, probably most people develop 'faith' based on aspects of emotional bias, and it may be that they remain unaware of this, as an aspect of bias which may be almost unconscious. — Jack Cummins
-Why are you explaining the obvious differences between a faith based belief and a knowledge based belief???????
How do you think that the distinction renders faith not a belief? — Nickolasgaspar
-Do you accept my claim that there is a god named Osiris? If you don't accept it then you don't believe in this god, if you do accept my claim as true than you believe in that god.
I don't know why this is so difficult for you.
In Philosophical discussions we constantly ask our interlocutors on whether they accept our presumptions or principles before we proceed to the next premise. Have you ever had a philosophical discussion before? — Nickolasgaspar
Have you ever had a philosophical discussion before? — Nickolasgaspar
hmmm....you didn't acknowledge the common usage of the term "accept" I quoted....that is suspicious behavior. — Nickolasgaspar
-Again My statement was that Faith is a type of Belief (that which is not based on good reason)
Since you replied to my posts why don't you address my position ? — Nickolasgaspar
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