https://www.amazon.com.au/Killing-Hope-Military-Interventions-Since/dp/1567512526

https://www.amazon.com.au/Washington-Bullets-History-Coups-Assassinations/dp/1583679065

https://www.amazon.com.au/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400

Or maybe learn how the US is in fact the most destructive piece of shit country on Earth that has consistently ended democratic movements and consistently crushed the freedoms of billions around the world. And continues to.

He's nuts. — Wheatley

But I know what it's like to go around with an invisible red bandana waiting for the revolution.

One day I noticed that the world doesn't really need one more angry man. There's billions of them.

Or maybe learn how the US is in fact the most deatructive piece of shit country on Earth — StreetlightX

It's not. It comes in behind China, Russia, Germany, and the British.

Chump change, really.

It's not. It comes in behind China, Russia, Germany, and the British. — frank

Sure, if you guzzle US propaganda.

Sure, if you guzzle US propaganda. — StreetlightX

Oh good grief.

But I know what it's like to go around with an invisible red bandana waiting for the revolution. — frank

Talk is cheap.

One day I noticed that the world doesn't really need one more angry man. There's billions of them. — frank

I can't afford to buy all those books. I'm just an ignorant peasant. :cry:

I can't afford to buy all those books. I'm just an ignorant peasant — Wheatley

I was just reading about medieval peasant food. They actually had a pretty healthy diet.

Thanks to the Sugar Association we don't (for real, it's a whole thing). You have to live like a medieval peasant to get healthy.

Thanks to the Sugar Association we don't (for real, it's a whole thing). You have to live like a medieval peasant to get healthy. — frank

That's American capitalist propaganda.

That's American propaganda. — Wheatley

I know, right? The Sugar Association says:

"Find Out How Sugar Plays an Important Role in Nutritious, Balanced, & Enjoyable Diets!"

And that's just wrong.

That's fluff.

That's fluff. — Wheatley

Like marshmallows?

Like meaningless.

Like meaningless. — Wheatley

Well that's what I was aiming for.

Stop. This is a Joe Biden thread.

BTW, I'm not defending Joe Biden (I didn't vote for him). I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. And this thread isn't about ( a very slanted) US history or the cold war.

Stop. This is a Joe Biden thread. — Wheatley

So, this is not where I come to say "Well what about Trump? He did etc etc."?

So, this is not where I come to say "Well what about Trump? He did etc etc."? — James Riley

No whatabouts. This thread is a platform to complain about Biden. :naughty:

No whatabouts. This thread is a platform to complain about Biden. — Wheatley

Gotcha! I had thought whataboutism was a uniquely American stupidity, but when I complained about Trump on the Trump thread, I was treated to a bunch of stupidity about Biden. Naturally I had to ask. I thought maybe I'd missed something. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Glad to know that whataboutism hasn't gained traction everywhere.

I had thought whataboutism was a uniquely American stupidity, but when I complained about Trump on the Trump thread, I was treated to a bunch of stupidity about Biden. — James Riley

We can't have that. It's crucial that we keep the complaints and grievances separate.Only then we end US tyranny around the globe. We shall complain on the streets and sidewalks, we shall complain with growing confidence and growing strength on cable news, we shall defend our US adversaries, whatever the cost may be.

Gotta love Winston! :grin:

No whatabouts. This thread is a platform to complain about Biden — Wheatley

Biden wants to settle a giant chunk of change on the American people. Europe does austerity. America does Cash Hemorrhages. The conservatives like to Hemorrhage toward various military ventures. Liberals prefer to Hemorrhage toward social welfare.

Biden is from the era when a politician might support both kinds of Hemorrhagic activity. And why not?

The conservatives like to Hemorrhage toward various military ventures. Liberals prefer to Hemorrhage toward social welfare. — frank

Trickle down is a proven failure. Trickle up is proven to work. The only issue is this: When you redistribute wealth to those who will actually spend it, those at the top will actually have to work to get some of it. We can't have that! After all, if you work, you pay taxes and that's verboten.

When you redistribute wealth to those who will actually spend it, those at the top will actually have to work to get some of it. — James Riley

There's another problem, though. Have you heard about the Great Resignation? It includes me. I left my job for a nice juicy role somewhere else. In my exit interview, I realized my ex-boss is either headed toward, or in a critical labor shortage. This is happening everywhere

BTW, this also happened after the Great Plague. Power came to the labor class not through solidarity, but through fucking disaster.

What does that tell you?

What does that tell you? — frank

It tells me I was right. It's just one of the lessons we can take out of the pandemic. .gov wasn't bailing out the banks/industry like it usually does; it was putting money in the pockets of labor; i.e. those who will spend it on something besides yachts and emerging markets. Even banks and industry knew where there bread was buttered when the shit hit the fan.

Power came to the labor class not through solidarity, but through fucking disaster. — frank

No need for Marxism then!

No need for Marxism then! — Wheatley

I don't think there's ever been a need for Marxism.

No need to divide the world into opressed and oppressor?

:up:

No need to divide society into opressed and oppressor — Wheatley

Is that what Marxism does? Well, yes, we need that.