But if the punishment is eternal, I cannot imagine a situation in which someone could be happy, even if Camus supposes this to be the case. — Manuel
If it causes sadness, then it’s harmful. Being sad is a form of suffering, right? And it isn’t like one can’t voluntarily suffer. — Pinprick
Then they don’t have to follow it. — schopenhauer1
If that doesn’t compel you then I’m not forcing. It’s not forced. It’s not inescapable. — schopenhauer1
So that justifies you causing harm? — Pinprick
Your opinion is presented to people without their consent, and that opinion could be harmful. — Pinprick
Sure they can walk away, but that’s after the harm has already occurred. The fact that we can kill ourselves (thereby ending the suffering) doesn’t suffice to justify having children in your view of things. So the escapability of harm seems irrelevant, or at least it doesn’t justify taking the risk of causing harm to someone else. — Pinprick
If a bully cannot get to bully others, and this makes him suffer. Does he get to bully others? — schopenhauer1
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