How does a number interact with a thing? (It doesn't.) Rather ... minding : body :: digesting : gut.How does a nonphysical mind interact with a physical body? — Agent Smith
Radio.Ghost in the machine.
(a) Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
(b) Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
(c) Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
(d) Is he neither able nor willing? — 180 Proof
As I've already pointed out here , Epicurus' Riddle does not concern whether or not "God exists".Well if He needed human validation to be proven to exist, he wouldn't be much of a god anyways. — john27
No, that's not my reading. The Riddle is "based on what god" does not do, and addressed to us and not god, prompts us to "think" about what god does not do.Also, isn't the Epicurean paradox based on what god thinks?
As I've already pointed out here ↪180 Proof, Epicurus' Riddle does not concern whether or not "God exists". — 180 Proof
No, that's not my reading. The Riddle is "based on what god" does not do, and addressed to us and not god, prompts us to "think" about what god does not do. — 180 Proof
Describe H O W Epicurus' Riddle is "weakened" by omnibenevolence. — 180 Proof
Nothing to do with the "Riddle" but your sockpuppet's got a memorable name, Mr. Smith — 180 Proof
Me: As per the Golden Mean Rule (vide Buddha & Aristotle), an extreme is bad, no? — Agent Smith
Again, your "point" has nothing to do with, or is based on missing the point of, The Riddle of Epicurus. — 180 Proof
Your proposition here is that categorically all extremes are bad. I invite you to cite Aristotle as anywhere saying that. — tim wood
Further, his the desirability of a mean between extremes mainly of deficiency and excess; that is, between states of affairs opposed and opposable on a continuum, the excess or deficiency at one end simply being the condition at the other. But good and evil do not oppose in quite that way - exactly how they do relate being a not-so-easy separate topic. — tim wood
It does. Too bad you do not know what it says.Aristotle's theory of the Golden Mean speaks for itself. — Agent Smith
If you cannot make heads or tails of it, how do you know it's unnecessary obfuscation?This is unnecessary obfuscation. Frankly, I can't make heads or tails of it. — Agent Smith
It does. Too bad you do not know what it says. — tim wood
If you cannot make heads or tails of it, how do you know it's unnecessary obfuscation? — tim wood
The idea of the mean is balance between two extremes. Wikipedia; "The golden mean or golden middle way is the desirable middle between two extremes, one of excess and the other of deficiency. It appeared in Greek thought at least as early as the Delphic maxim "nothing in excess" and emphasized in later Aristotelian philosophy." — tim wood
So we might ask what the the mean is between an artichoke and Thursday - and it's a nonsense question because they're incommensurable. And that implies that the mean has to be in terms of excess or deficiency of the same thing. Aristotle makes two points (a lot more than two, but these two anyway): first, that it is a mistake to look for greater precision than a subject matter can provide; second, that the idea of extreme is not completely simple. For, suppose something perfect: as a matter of degree, the perfection of a perfect thing would be at the extreme, but that would be correct and appropriate for the perfect thing, and not an excess. — tim wood
Good and evil, then, not commensurable, although informally spoken of as such. Therefore it is a mistake in understanding to look for a mean between them. And this can be confused because of differing usages of "good." So you built a good argument, just on the bad ground that wouldn't hold it. — tim wood
**sigh** So what is the mean between good and evil? — tim wood
If you read your Aristotle, you will have seen that he tells you that not everything can be "meaned." — tim wood
If you're going to talk about his Ethics, you have to read and cite. If we're actually talking about you're ideas, that's a different topic. — tim wood
Consider, for example, a perfect circle: is a less than perfect circle a more perfect circle than a perfect circle? And this seems to apply to the good as well. If something is perfectly good, is it made more perfect by being made less perfect? — tim wood
I find the Aristotle I read to be a quintessentially practical fellow. — tim wood
Here is a PDF of Nichomachean Ethics with a descriptive table of contents. Take a look. — tim wood
No it has not. Just because you say so it does not make it true. Maybe you believe that, and kudos to you, I'm happy for you. But in logical grounds it has not been defeated, but, in fact, supported.(The argument of evil) has been defeated — Miller
The main reason people are atheists is that they don't want the premise of heaven to influence their positive actions. — john27
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