ou yourself had said that reason and desire are different, but then you simultaneous suggest that something most people believe to be bad based upon an uncritical perspective of it gives us a rational reason for thinking it's genuinely bad and that appears to make no sense. — DA671
The valley of life as well, my friend. — DA671
So creating a person is not the same as ending them because they don't exist in the first place. — DA671
It's still wrong because it would harm existing people. That still has nothing to do with creating them, so I think you missed my point. — DA671
Knowing people die is not the same as killing them. — DA671
Indeed. Thankfully, procreation kills nobody. — DA671
No, it does not. — DA671
death is a portal to a worse world. — Bartricks
Your beliefs are increasingly starting to seem like vacuous projections, my friend. — DA671
Once again, knowing that people die has nothing to do with creating a valuable life, because we also know that giving birth to someone does not cause any individual to lose their life. — DA671
As Woody Allen said - I'm not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens. — T Clark
I don't want to live on in my work. I want to live on in my apartment. — Woody Allen
The difference between your "X" and my "X" is that not doing your X (stabbing or shooting) results in an actual person living longer, whereas not doing my X (creating them) does not imbue a soul in the void with the energy of immortality. — DA671
You've proven my point about projection by accusing me of doing what you have been indulging in throughout this thread without providing adequate justification. — DA671
"Be fruitful and multiply" increases overall entropy. Deus vult – how can this be "evil"? :mask:It's evil to have children! — Agent Smith
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