as a result of the US trying to project power into areas it doesn't even have realistic interests — Benkei
Putin's also demonstrating promises from NATO are meaningless. — Benkei
The elite won't be affected — Benkei
Putin's also demonstrating promises from NATO are meaningless. — Benkei
NATO won't defend Ukraine because Ukraine isn't part of NATO. — Christoffer
I comprehend, but don't you think that's quite unfair to Ukrainian citizens and sovereignty?
When a country does not respect other territories, the rest should act or try something. Doesn't matter if they are part of NATO or not — javi2541997
a full scale world war, probably with nukes. — Christoffer
That would be very crazy. Really, I don't understand what is going on with Putin's mind and Russia interests. — javi2541997
Which he possibly can use.The problem is that there's a mentally challenged lunatic called Putin who is indirectly threatening with nuclear weapons. — Christoffer
It pays to remember just how many WMDs were found in Iraq and what the intelligence community thought it knew and how that was spun by politicians and Powell in particular.
Edit: let me translate that "anybody who believes the US and UK narrative is an idiot". — Benkei
For us in Europe, especially Sweden, we have a real risk of invasion of our island Gotland since it's a strategic military point to govern the entire Baltic sea. So it is quite possible that the process to join NATO is fast and it will include Sweden and Finland — Christoffer
Putin is pretty lonely, even the elites under his rule seem to act with criticism against his actions. — Christoffer
Yes, he is so lonely but at the same time he doesn't care at all. Remember when he poisoned all his rivals back in the past? Lunatic and dictator — javi2541997
For us in Europe, especially Sweden, we have a real risk of invasion of our island Gotland since it's a strategic military point to govern the entire Baltic sea. So it is quite possible that the process to join NATO is fast and it will include Sweden and Finland — Christoffer
Yeah I think exactly the same. This conflict and issue would make the European nations to regroup and stay together, reinforcing the treaties and cooperation. EU has to take of it and not lead anyone to make a gap among the members and alliances. — javi2541997
Hopefully both Sweden and Finland can decide together if to join NATO. — ssu
More like Russian Empire nostalgia, I think. — jamalrob
. I wouldn't be surprised if they attack Gotland and Finland sometime. Hopefully Putin gets a bullet before that. — Christoffer
At least as a troll, you are honestly open with your views. And people can make up their minds about your ideas.But he clearly intends to restore some of the Russian Empire, which I believe he is perfectly entitled to do. — Apollodorus
Funny delusions again. Thanks to Putin, old NATO is back again. The Russian are feared and despised, The Ukrainians are fucked, and NATO is united. Yeah, great moves from Putin!IMO all the talk of Europe becoming "more united" in the face of Russian aggression is nonsense, as it obviously is an artificial and temporary unity that cannot possibly last as long as Europe is dominated by powers on its outskirts, like France and Britain — Apollodorus
The US government says he doesn't have the ability to occupy Ukraine. It's a logistics problem.
He can attack and make changes, leave a Russian military presence, but that's it.
Putin isn't going to take over Europe. — frank
The most likely thing is that Russia will try and occupy Ukraine and over the long term the Russian forces will be terrorized by Ukrainian groups while Russia suffocates under the upcoming sanctions. — Christoffer
Åland Island is even demilitarized, so it's an easy picking for Putin, if that would happen. The border guards over there aren't much of a match and Russian helicopters have the range to fly there.
Now as tough sanctions (as EU members) and counter-sanctions from Russia will already happen, it does beg the question of what is the point? It dawned to me before the corona epidemic when sitting in the soldiers home in the local military garrison with fellow reservists and Finnish career officers and watched young British soldiers eating pizza. We are just fooling ourselves here with the non-aligned thing. Or simply giving this fig-leaf to Putin not to act. — ssu
I don't think so. I think this will become normalized in a year or two. — frank
I'm talking about the upcoming sanctions. If the parameters of those sanctions are true, those are not something easily normalized in the long term. — Christoffer
They can't go too far with sanctions because Russia owes Europe, particularly France, a lot of money. They have to give Russia access to European banks so they can pay their debt. — frank
As Putin is obviously trying to reconstitute and reconquer the Russian (Soviet) Empire, he truly is the modern imperialist in the genuine sense. — ssu
for some strange reason you keep blabbering on about "Russian empire" — Apollodorus
You obviously don't understand the term "empire". — Apollodorus
Putin ... clearly intends to restore some of the Russian Empire, which I believe he is perfectly entitled to do. — Apollodorus
That's the goal, destabilize Russia from within through isolation of Russia. — Christoffer
I'd say there is a zero percent chance that destabilizing Russia is anybody's goal. Russia will turn to China for trade. — frank
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