has nothing to do with profit, which is financial gain. — Xtrix
No the fuck it isn't, I just gave you the damn definitions. That's all there is to it. — Garrett Travers
a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.
You seem to have your own idiosyncratic way of defining these terms. I mean, profits are what motivate living things? Not food and water and sex and shelter? Seems strange that an ant gives a damn about money. But obviously you're meaning profit in some other way. But why not just say that?
Maybe I'm missing something! — John McMannis
Again, if you wish to define "profit" as "any gain whatsoever," OK. That's your call. But that's not what I was referring to, clearly. You responded to me. If you want to take "profit" in the sense I mean (the above definition), and object on the grounds that "profits are gains and, thus, everything we do is for profit in this sense" -- then make that clear, so I can simply ignore a completely off-topic remark. — Xtrix
The definitions of the term "profit" encompass all forms of individual benefit, period end of story. — Garrett Travers
the excess of returns over expenditure in a transaction or series of transactions
especially : the excess of the selling price of goods over their cost
The US has far more guns than nearly any other country, per capita. The gun manufacturing industry, with their propaganda and lobbying, is behind it. Which only means, as usual, the valuing of profits over people is at the core of this rot.
Same with tobacco, same with sugar, same with fossil fuels, same with opioids, same with hundreds of other examples. When you live in a socioeconomic system that chooses to value money and property over everything else, these issues are mere symptoms. — Xtrix
No, it doesn't. It's one definition, and not the one which I used and which you responded to. I was using "profit" in the financial sense, which was clear from context. — Xtrix
The definition doesn't care how reductive you are about it's usage, you'll need to actually clarify that you are ONLY speaking about monetary profit, so that such context is available to me — Garrett Travers
or you are being reductive. — Garrett Travers
That's how philosophy works. — Garrett Travers
No, it doesn't. It's one definition, and not the one which I used and which you responded to. I was using "profit" in the financial sense, which was clear from context.
— Xtrix
This is impermissable ignorance, I posted the definitions in the message you just quoted. — Garrett Travers
a valuable return : GAIN
2: the excess of returns over expenditure in a transaction or series of transactions
especially : the excess of the selling price of goods over their cost
3: net income usually for a given period of time
4: the ratio of profit for a given year to the amount of capital invested or to the value of sales
5: the compensation accruing to entrepreneurs for the assumption of risk in business enterprise as distinguished from wages or rent
to be of service or advantage : AVAIL
2: to derive benefit : GAIN
3: to make a profi
Understand now how language works? Or, is it too idiosyncratic to apprehend? — Garrett Travers
Which you decided to injected yourself into, invoking your own preferred definition of "profit = gain of any kind." Disingenuous at best. But mostly just confused. — Xtrix
Uh, most — John McMannis
But you're clearly a child, so I'll leave you to it. — John McMannis
:fire: :100: — John McMannis
Which should be clear to anyone reading what I wrote. Again, if you thought "maybe he means 'profit as gain of any kind'", then that's your own misunderstanding. In that case, try to comprehend what others are saying before jumping in with non sequiturs. — Xtrix
And yet no one I know has ever known a person who was murdered, much less who was shot. What do you make of that? 55 years in this crime ridden city, and never even been pickpocketed. — Hanover
Not to sound facetious, but the primary reason is probably that the United States is far more violent than the United Kingdom...the answer you are looking for is "culture" (amongst other things). It is most likely that our culture in America leads to an allowance and appreciation of more violence than is typically seen in United Kingdom.What is the primary reason the murder rate in the United States is almost 5 times that of the United Kingdom?
Not to sound facetious, but the primary reason is probably that the United States is far more violent than the United Kingdom...the answer you are looking for is "culture" (amongst other things). It is most likely that our culture in America leads to an allowance and appreciation of more violence than is typically seen in United Kingdom. — chiknsld
Also the legality of a gun is relatively irrelevant. For example: I am currently at work and here it is 1 am. Gun stores are closed, so legally purchasing a gun is not currently possible, from a store. I could still likely get one in a few hours, legally, by looking online for a private sale. Legally they would take my license number down and I would sign a bill of sale for the gun and away I go with my gun. Chances are, at this time of day, an eyebrow or two might be raised, however I could probably explain that away as being a shift worker and this is the best time for me to buy anything, gun or otherwise. However, If I elect to go illegal, I could likely find something in under 2 hours, complete with a reasonable amount of ammunition. They would not ask for my license, or name, and I would not ask for theirs. It would be a cash exchange and relatively untraceable. All things considered, the illegal transaction is slightly more annoying as I have no local contacts for illegal weapons, but otherwise, nothing very exciting. Much like buying anything else; you like it, you buy it, if not, see what else is available, or walk away. The point is, if you want something; guns, drugs, whatever, you usually don't have to look very hard for it. Just have money and start looking, it will come to you. — Book273
delimited definition, it is your job to explain that. — Garrett Travers
Culture affects the philosophy of a people, which in-turn affects the ethics of a people, which in-turn affects the laws that are created and voted for (in a democracy) by the people, including gun laws. — chiknsld
I don't think that heavily white or East Asian countries would be very homicidal even with very relaxed gun laws. Those demographics, on average, just aren't very homicidal to begin with.
Does northern New England have very strict gun laws? Because AFAIK it's not that homicidal. But what works in its favor is that it's much whiter than the rest of the US is. — Xanatos
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