According to this 'historical' reasoning, Ukraine could be Swedish. — magritte
Daring to look at both sides of what has been a complex ongoing issue for years? — Baden
The situation in the Balkan and Eastern European states is very complex further because of the long history of the various foreign rulers and empires of which these lands were part. Moreover, what is now one country or parts thereof, often used to be part of several other countries. — baker
Biden is a senile old man on medication who wants to take revenge on Putin for allegedly helping Trump beat Hillary.
When Biden says he isn’t going to send troops into Ukraine what he really means is the following:
When Boris Johnson sent British troops to Ukraine in January to “train Ukrainians”, that was a cover for special operations. The troops were pulled out but left “specialists” behinds.
The Brits (and some Americans) are now inside Ukraine organizing resistance aiming for (a) Russian retreat, (b) civil war, or (c) world war.
They have also completely penetrated Russia where they are organizing “peace-demos”, cyber-attacks on government institutions (together with Anonymous), and planning a coup to topple Putin in collaboration with America.
It is absolutely clear that Biden and Johnson have come to an understanding to overthrow the Russian government. All the talk about “sanctions” is just a smokescreen.
So, if you really care about your people you must tell them that it is time for Germany, France, Italy, and other European countries to unite, make peace with Russia, and kick America out of Europe. It’s either that or slavery. If you care about the future, don't repeat the mistakes of the past. The people of Europe must stand up and fight for their rights. And they must do it NOW, before it's too late. — Apollodorus
Biden is a ... man
...Biden says he isn’t going to send troops into Ukraine...:
...Boris Johnson sent British troops to Ukraine in January to “train Ukrainians”,... That's an established British procedure.
The Brits (and some Americans) are ... aiming for (a) Russian retreat...
...Russia ... are organizing “peace-demos”, ...
...Biden and Johnson ...talk about “sanctions” ....
Spanish and English history books will conveniently differ on issues of past national conflicts. — magritte
So when in 1997 Ukraine signed the Charter on a Distinctive Partnership, https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_25457.htm that was what? A joke? A cunning double bluff? — Isaac
And the act goes on with further details...The North Atlantic Treaty Organization and its member States, on the one hand, and the Russian Federation, on the other hand, hereinafter referred to as NATO and Russia, based on an enduring political commitment undertaken at the highest political level, will build together a lasting and inclusive peace in the Euro-Atlantic area on the principles of democracy and cooperative security.
NATO and Russia do not consider each other as adversaries. They share the goal of overcoming the vestiges of earlier confrontation and competition and of strengthening mutual trust and cooperation. The present Act reaffirms the determination of NATO and Russia to give concrete substance to their shared commitment to build a stable, peaceful and undivided Europe, whole and free, to the benefit of all its peoples. Making this commitment at the highest political level marks the beginning of a fundamentally new relationship between NATO and Russia. They intend to develop, on the basis of common interest, reciprocity and transparency a strong, stable and enduring partnership.
(See Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet in Russian- Ukrainian Relations)In early 1994, Crimea elected Yuri Meshkov as President. Meshkov, an ethnic Russian and former K.G.B. border guard, won overwhelming support from fellow ethnic Russians in a campaign managed by a reputed covert operative from Moscow. Meshkov's pro-Russian position and claims for Crimea's independence had complicated relations between Kiev and Simferopol, and between Kiev and Moscow. The first Crimean president expressed his views to reporters in mid-February 1994 as follows:
The main aspect of my policy is Crimea's independence. Independence alone will allow us to solve our economic problems. The results of the presidential elections confirmed the population's orientation to economic, cultural and other links with Russia, and to reunion with Russia....The Black Sea Fleet must be indivisible, belong to Russia and be based in Sevastopol which is an inalienable part of the Republic of Crimea.
Tory MP Tobias Ellwood, a former soldier, recalling serving in Bosnia, told ITV News: “Nato wasn’t part of Bosnia there, but there was a commitment to European security, and now we are playing catch-up.
He added: “Things won’t stop here. Let’s make this very, very clear. Putin’s ideological intention to expand his sphere of influence will go way beyond Ukraine.”
Meanwhile, the UK has pledged to continue to supply arms to Ukraine’s military.
“We know what the Ukrainians want. We are doing our best to get it to them,” UK armed forces minister James Heappey told Sky News.
Macron wrote that France will provide Ukraine with a “additional budgetary assistance of 300 million euros” and “will provide the defensive material they need."
Hackers are coming to Ukraine’s aid in an effort to target Russian government websites and officials with disruptive counterattacks, according to six people involved in the activity.
It's "silly" only in the sense that it comes too late. Most Europeans have sold their souls to the US long ago. — baker
Soon you will be nazis. Just like we will be.In what way have, for example, we in Sweden "sold our souls" to the US? Please explain, from the perspective of my country, how we've done this and we can start to evaluate your "argument". — Christoffer
As I said, I'm not making any further comments on Ukraine, other than to point out that real people are being killed in large numbers. — Wayfarer
Europeans can resist America in Europe. — Apollodorus
There is no will to do so, because Europeans have become too entitled, too greedy, too thankless, too short-sighted. They've become like a bunch of spoiled teenagers. — baker
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