So, you give one reason for 'a man hating women'. I haven't read all the discussion, so what are the other key reasons as to why women might be seen as posing some kind of a threat to the power of men? — Amity
Or are women generally less violent than men? — Amity
If you don't find a female to be intimate with, find a male.... — Olivier5
I complained that the OP was uncritical of the 'reasons' (scare quotes because the reasoning is false) for men's hate and violence against women. The author _db explained that they were not subscribing to the 'reasoning' but describing it. — Cuthbert
Or are women generally less violent than men?
— Amity
I would say - quite obviously 'yes'. But it doesn't follow that any given man will be more or less violent that any given woman. Take a violent man and you will likely find a history of being somewhat a loser. Take a non-violent man and you will quite likely find the same. That's because there are more losers than winners in the world . — Cuthbert
Women are generally less violent than men. But the step from there to 'incels are a threat' is a big and uncertain logical move — Cuthbert
An ex girlfriend of mine pumped a bullet in her head, making it clear she was doing it because I wouldn't come back to her. That still hurts, decades later. I'm crying writing this down now... — Olivier5
I haven't heard of incels in countries other than the US of A. Is it just under-reporting or do they lack a platform to band together? I dunno. — Agent Smith
I didn't know incel had a women's wing — Agent Smith
Experts at the University of Exeter say a major new study tracking the rise of 'incel culture' across the world could help anti-terror efforts and prevent violent attacks.
Five months on from the shootings in Plymouth which left six people dead, new figures show a steep rise in the number of people visiting online forums dedicated to 'involuntary celibates', in which men discuss their resentment and hatred of women.
New data released by the Centre for Countering Digital Hate shows last year web traffic to three of the largest 'incel' sites grew from 114,420 monthly visits in March last year to 638,505 in November.
Why is incel culture growing?
Dr Brace said people are at home more, are isolated more and are spending more time online - particularly as a result of the pandemic.
He said: "So it makes sense that people will engage with this content more and more.
But women objectify themselves and other women in this same way. Pick up pretty much any "women's" magazine, book, tv show, seminar, webinar, and there it is: "see yourself as a piece of meat to be fucked".
It's a bit of a stretch to say that women do this because they are the poor victims of patriarchy. — baker
That is the saddest thing about some suicides.
Some know the effect it will have on others left behind. And don't care.
Making them the reason for their unhappiness, their death. — Amity
An ex girlfriend of mine pumped a bullet in her head, making it clear she was doing it because I wouldn't come back to her. That still hurts, decades later. I'm crying writing this down now... — Olivier5
Oooops, my brain just flipped :scream: — Amity
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