So if tomorrow we call the sun "horse," it won't change that bright ball in the sky. — Xtrix
An elementary particle stays an elementary particle eternally. — Haglund
Whilst simultaneously appreciating the appalling nature of such thought systems, perhaps? — Tom Storm
Not. You're talking about atoms, 'indivisible particles', but there are none. Nowadays a particle is an excitation of a field. — Wayfarer
Can't we think about being without the limitations of the human condition? A transcendental state can set us free from these limitations. The static whole of the transient, transgressive, changing, differentiating, or becoming nature of subjective being can be experienced as a solid, static, transcendental state of eternal, infinite, and objective, absolute essence, dissolving all distinctions, boundaries, perspective, and diversity in still unity. — Haglund
I do not say mind is physical or non-physical. — Jackson
No, this is exactly what we cannot do. We must respect the fact that thinking about anything, is, by its very nature something limited by the human condition. So it is absolutely impossible to "think about being without the limitations of the human condition". "Thinking" is fundamentally limited by the human condition therefore these limitations inhere within the thinking. So if we want to take the perspective of some sort of disembodied being, we are not even talking about "thinking" anymore, nor would this disembodied being be properly called an "intellect", as "intellect" is attributed to a thinking human being. We can't even properly call it a "being" — Metaphysician Undercover
That's why I think it is wrong considering change as being. — Angelo Cannata
For example? — bongo fury
Saying “change is something” is a human conceptualization, which is, metaphisics. As such, it is exposed to criticism. It is humanly impossible to guarantee that our reasonings are true and correct: we never know if tomorrow we might discover an error in our reasoning. So, you have no way to guarantee that your statement “change is something” is true or correct; this applies all the same to the consequence that you think you can get: “therefore change is”. — Angelo Cannata
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