Are you saying that taxation is a secret where you live?
I literally gave you the example in the fucking quote you're replying to, if would be hard to get more disingenuous. If you board a train you agree to pay the price of whatever journey you took. If you have a bar tab you agree to pay the cost of however many drinks you accumulate by the time the tab is due.
At no point in either arrangement did you shake anyone's hand or bow or sign anything. Remaining on a train definitely constitutes an agreement to pay for the excess journey.
You've not linked agreeing with deserving. If a prison guard agrees to help a prisoner escape, do they thereby deserve to escape?
No, taxation is not a secret. When you accept a job, do you agree to the gross or net wage? — NOS4A2
You’re using an example of voluntary exchanges as analogies for compulsory taxation — NOS4A2
thought we were talking about why I am entitled to the gross wage, now it’s offers to escape from prison. — NOS4A2
I claimed no such thing. You said your gross wage was agreed as yours by consent. That's a lie. You employer has full knowledge and expectation that you will give the taxable portion to the government. He never consented for you to keep that portion in return for your labour. — Isaac
Well, that’s even more absurd. It’s no business of the other party whether I pay my taxes or not, and it matters not one bit what he implicitly expects me to do with my payment. If a client expects me to spend his payment on food or rent it makes little sense to say I am violating his consent if I flush it all down the toilet. — NOS4A2
Yes. The argument you gave was that your reward was agreed on by some other party, therefore you deserve it, if you provide no further factors, then whatever reward is agreed on is deserved. So the prisoner deserves to escape because that's what was agreed on.
Here in the UK it’s the employer that pays their employees’ income tax and national insurance (and student loan repayments if required). We only ever see the post-tax amount.
This picture is missing one important piece: provided we get rid of capitalism first — Xtrix
provided we get rid of capitalism first. — Xtrix
certainly apathetic — ZzzoneiroCosm
Certainly there is an apathos in it. A lack of feeling for others. — ZzzoneiroCosm
It is not capitalism, per se, that is the corruption point, but rather the elevation of corporate over individual rights, and the over-concentration of capital. — Pantagruel
Why a handful of owners -- a capitalist class (also the ruling class) -- should be given the power over economic (and political) life is the question. I don't think they should. — Xtrix
the best propaganda in existence — Pantagruel
Rawls’ theory of justice is what Nozick called an “end-state” theory of justice. — NOS4A2
The question of whether a distribution is just depends upon how it came about, so one has to examine the history of the transfer and acquisition of any “holding”. — NOS4A2
If my chicken lays eggs and I give you a dozen that sounds to me like a just exchange. — NOS4A2
I don’t think it’s too difficult to ponder. If my chicken lays eggs and I give you a dozen that sounds to me like a just exchange. — NOS4A2
Historical. The question of whether a distribution is just depends upon how it came about, so one has to examine the history of the transfer and acquisition of any “holding”. — NOS4A2
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