Also, “The Crimean Tatars emerged as a nation at the time of the Crimean Khanate, an Ottoman vassal state during the 16th to 18th centuries” - Wikipedia.
Of course, they would have some non-Mongol DNA as they enslaved the local population and raped thousands of local women! The Cumans themselves were a "Turkic nomadic people that eventually settled to the west of the Black Sea" (Wikipedia). — Apollodorus
In any case, that doesn’t make Crimea “Ukrainian”! :grin: — Apollodorus
How do you get 24/7 information unfiltered, just by being in Sweden/Finland? I'm in England, I don't get information about English military security, unfiltered. I still get it though the press, open source intelligence, and commentators I read - same as everyone else. I can't just walk up to MI5 and ask, just because I'm a local. Yet all these sources are online, for anyone in the world to access.
What sources of military and security information do Swedes and Finns have unfiltered access to which are not on the internet? — Isaac
The combined flow of information depends on who you know and what the official discussion is in media and online. Just because you're in a bubble of guesswork does not mean everyone is. — Christoffer
On top of that, you don't have the information flow that exists here, you do not watch Swedish news, media, or discussions that we have, all you have are from anyone sharing that information, with their interpretation filter and media reporting with the perspective of your nations — Christoffer
Sweden and the nordic nations, in general, have one of the lowest biases in media in the world. So it's easier to sift through the information flow — Christoffer
Bottom line is that if the information sources you describe are your only sources, then you definitely don't have enough insight to question what I present about our situation in Sweden. — Christoffer
Will have to change my social media profile to a little Somalian flag in solidarity in the meantime. — Streetlight
I agree with you.So I think the outstanding question is whether Ukraine should push to retake the Donbass region or not. Is that going to be a long separatist war? Crimea seems a step too far considering Russia's territorial claim to it and statements on use of nuclear weapons. What do you think, ssu? — Benkei
So glad the epicentre of neo fucking Nazism in Europe is getting flooded with weapons after being destabalized to shit hey? — Streetlight
Ukraine is believed to have one of the largest arms trafficking markets in Europe. — Global Organised Crime Index
It's very likely that neither country has any appetite for large NATO bases or deployed nuclear weapons, which likely the US or NATO has not even thought about. The countries will be happy about one or two NATO squadrons that could be deployed to the countries in a crisis. And that's basically it and both countries know it: we have to defend our territory, inside or out of NATO. — ssu
Can you teach this power of making things up? — Streetlight
I think Ukraine has a good chance to halt the assault in Donbas and push back as they have done in Kyiv and Kharkov. They surely can stop the attack on Odessa and even limit the "landbridge" to Crimea. But Crimea is going to be the really tough issue. That will be viewed by Putin as Russia proper, so I would think twice before pushing the luck to go there. — ssu
Wtf? You're serious aren't you? You're actually going through with the idea that you've got some special insight which us mere mortals can't even question. — Isaac
Look, for you personally, we're all well aware that you're basically Jack Ryan — Isaac
So obviously you don't know shit about the deployment of nuclear weapons.Mmm, tell me again how the US and NATO have not thought all that much about nuclear weapon deployment.
Does it come from the same intelligence reports that the US and the West don't like war? — Streetlight
Well, we obviously don't have an unified Europe, if we think that Russia is an European country (and I think it is, even if half of it is in Asia).A unified European defense has been mentioned here and there.
What timelines might that take to implement anyway...?
For something to become effective?
As far as I know, it's not particularly on anyone's desk. — jorndoe
A unified European defense has been mentioned here and there.
What timelines might that take to implement anyway...?
For something to become effective?
As far as I know, it's not particularly on anyone's desk. — jorndoe
The fact is that Russia simply isn't a normal country that would try to have good relations with it's neighbors. It seeks the role it had when it was an empire/Superpower, makes huge gambles and takes extreme risks. It's extremely reckless. There simply are no benefits in trying to appease Putin.I rather take the lesser evil as security than risk the worse one going postal on us. — Christoffer
A unified European defense has been mentioned here and there.
What timelines might that take to implement anyway...?
For something to become effective?
As far as I know, it's not particularly on anyone's desk. — jorndoe
Hopefully you know what the US nuclear triad means. Hence two of those legs of the triad aren't in any NATO country, but in CONUS and on (under) the seas. What are deployed in NATO countries are the old free fall nukes, which also can be dropped by some aircraft of NATO countries. But these are limited and notice that the nuclear weapons haven't been deployed to Eastern NATO states (the map above). So it's extremely unlikely that they would be deployed (meaning that they are storaged) into Sweden or Finland. — ssu
A legitimate issue. What happens if the US decides to step away from its leadership role in NATO, not now, but after a couple of years? Will the militarized member nations stay united or will their leaders reignite historical nationalistic conflicts against their neighbors? — magritte
I'm just calling out your bullshit thinking you know even surface-level stuff of what is going on in Sweden and Finland. — Christoffer
And you are a professor who fights against the norms by stating education isn't needed, so how on earth can we take you seriously. — Christoffer
it seems like from a humanitarian perspective, it would have been better if Russian won after a couple of days. Am I wrong? — ASmallTalentForWar
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